Is it just all bluff?




 
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Is it just all bluff?
 
July 13th, 2008  
errol
 
 

Topic: Is it just all bluff?


Is it just all bluff?
Will Israel attack Iran soon or is it just all bluff? The consequences look quite frightening.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4322508.ece
July 13th, 2008  
AikiRooster
 
 
Yes, this issue scares the poop out of me. This could turn into a World War.
July 13th, 2008  
A Can of Man
 
 
Man... this is so crazy it couldn't be fiction.
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Is it just all bluff?
July 13th, 2008  
The Other Guy
 
 
hoo boy... this isn't even funny...
July 13th, 2008  
ObjSRgtLw
 
 
What the... this would also show other potential war candidates that aggressiv action isn't that far from becoming true... i think this would have very huge consequences, as for Germany i think i know on which side we'll have to stand... but if you can speak of a ww3 that depends on the reaction of Iran and other countries. If it comes to combat it will be hell...
July 13th, 2008  
The Other Guy
 
 
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Originally Posted by ObjSRgtLw
What the... this would also show other potential war candidates that aggressiv action isn't that far from becoming true... i think this would have very huge consequences, as for Germany i think i know on which side we'll have to stand... but if you can speak of a ww3 that depends on the reaction of Iran and other countries. If it comes to combat it will be hell...
If Russia decides to defend their trading partner, Iran, then things could get far too interesting far too quick.

I just hope it's a bluff.
July 13th, 2008  
ObjSRgtLw
 
 
so do i, only 10 more years in the Military- still alive for now, xxx
July 13th, 2008  
MontyB
 
 
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Originally Posted by The Other Guy
If Russia decides to defend their trading partner, Iran, then things could get far too interesting far too quick.

I just hope it's a bluff.
Nah the global consequences I think are pretty minor in the short term as Russia is not ready for a resumption of the cold war yet.

On top of this even the most ardent of Bush fans should by now realise that there is no way Israel can attack Iran without a lot of physical US support so while Iran will probably fire a few missiles in retaliation and Hezbollah will do what ever they do on a daily basis US assets and support throughout the Middle East will become very hard to manage because this will be a better recruiting poster for every nut job terrorist group than those famous words "Bring it on".
July 13th, 2008  
The Other Guy
 
 
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Originally Posted by MontyB
On top of this even the most ardent of Bush fans should by now realise that there is no way Israel can attack Iran without a lot of physical US support so while Iran will probably fire a few missiles in retaliation and Hezbollah will do what ever they do on a daily basis US assets and support throughout the Middle East will become very hard to manage because this will be a better recruiting poster for every nut job terrorist group than those famous words "Bring it on".
Bye bye oil... oh why couldnt we have tried harder at develloping an alternative source of energy?

The Arab Oil Embargo taught us to buy smaller cars. It taught us that it's dangerous to rely on foreign oil and to look for alternatives to Gasoline, such as Diesel. (i.e. all those little turbodiesel VWs and Saabs on the market in the late 70s-early 80s.) So when the embargo is lifted, what do we do: a) learn that we can't rely on oil forever and come up with alternatives, or b) go back to building huge cars (and eventually SUVs) that hog more gas and when the problem arises again put us in an even worse spot than before.

If you chose B, then congratulations, you're America!

We had 20 years to come up with an alternative engergy source, and we're still on square one. We can't bomb them flat, because then there will be $80 a gallon gas, and we can't let them destroy our ally, Israel. Instead of getting out of this racket and develloping our own energy (NOT drilling for oil here, which will be gone before today's Kindergardeners get out of High School), We're stuck trying to be friends with both the Hatfields and McCoys.
July 13th, 2008  
MontyB
 
 
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Originally Posted by The Other Guy
Bye bye oil... oh why couldnt we have tried harder at develloping an alternative source of energy?

The Arab Oil Embargo taught us to buy smaller cars. It taught us that it's dangerous to rely on foreign oil and to look for alternatives to Gasoline, such as Diesel. (i.e. all those little turbodiesel VWs and Saabs on the market in the late 70s-early 80s.) So when the embargo is lifted, what do we do: a) learn that we can't rely on oil forever and come up with alternatives, or b) go back to building huge cars (and eventually SUVs) that hog more gas and when the problem arises again put us in an even worse spot than before.

If you chose B, then congratulations, you're America!
C, You can now turn your food into fuel thus driving up the price of food and oil but at least you can drive around looking for something to eat.



The simple fact is that the US is not to blame for failing to come up with a viable alternative to oil, the entire developed world merrily did nothing as well so its now a problem shared.

But back to this Israel/Iran thing, the problem for the US is that even if it doesn't offer direct support to Israel they still have to fly through multiple countries that are hostile to Israel and at least one that has substantial military ties to the USA (Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia) and all of these countries are not going to be pleased at having to turn a blind eye to this.
 


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