JF-17 Vs LCA Tejas - Page 5




 
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October 15th, 2012  
ROCKERPUSS
 
 
The aircraft is also fitted with a night vision compatible glass cockpit with Martin Baker (UK) zero-zero ejection seats. The aircraft’s electronic warfare suite, developed by the Advanced Systems Integration and Evaluation Organization (ASIEO) of Bangalore, includes a radar warning receiver and jammer, laser warner, missile approach warner, and chaff and flare dispenser. The LCA’s design has been configured to match the demands of modern combat scenario such as speed, acceleration, maneuverability and agility. Chinese J-10 with Composite airframe may have higher speed (Mach 2.1) & thrust but modern avionics & tactical missiles play a major role in modern combat. LCA(Mach 1.85) is not that behind and some other things( LCA Tejas will have Beyond Visual Range Missile Derby. )
are better than JF17 (Titanium heavy metal airframe, copy of 1956 model MiG-21).

http://www.asian-defence.net/2012/02...ndian-lca.html
October 19th, 2012  
rocky71
 
 
After spending buckets full of money Indian R&D organization DRDO has abandoned the LCA/Teja project. In fact, to date India has not been able to produce even an indigenous assault rifle!
October 20th, 2012  
ROCKERPUSS
 
 

Topic: JF-17 maneuverability in air



This Video may convince you, due to its Titanium Alloy Airframe (of 1956 model MiG-21) which is very heavy and also without RUSSIAN RD-93 engine JF17 is a Great Scrap Metal JUNK FIGHTER -No.1 BLUNDER Chinese are afraid to fly even Laden!! Good for poor African , East Bloc or Latin American countries
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October 25th, 2012  
ROCKERPUSS
 
 

Topic: INSAS Indian Army Indegenous Rifle


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Originally Posted by rocky71
After spending buckets full of money Indian R&D organization DRDO has abandoned the LCA/Teja project. In fact, to date India has not been able to produce even an indigenous assault rifle!

Is it LCA Tejas Or Not?

My dear friend, were you in Afghanistan or Paksitan? If not, pls browse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INSAS_rifle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Sub_Machine_Carbine
In 1997 the INSAS Rifle and LMG were ready for mass production, and in 1998 the first Indian army units were observed armed with INSAS rifles for the Republic Day Parade.

Indian Nuclear Submarine already in Army service http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arihant_class_submarine

India have an Automobile industry. World famous Land Rover & jauguar is now manufactured by Tata. Tata Nano is being introduced in USA this year 2012.
India reached up to moon from a humble beginning in space technology. What you have ? there? This is to dicuss JF17 vs LCA Tejas your comments are not related to the subject.
November 2nd, 2012  
rocky71
 
 
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Originally Posted by ROCKERPUSS
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Is it LCA Tejas Or Not?

My dear friend, were you in Afghanistan or Paksitan? If not, pls browse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INSAS_rifle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Sub_Machine_Carbine
In 1997 the INSAS Rifle and LMG were ready for mass production, and in 1998 the first Indian army units were observed armed with INSAS rifles for the Republic Day Parade.

Indian Nuclear Submarine already in Army service http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arihant_class_submarine

India have an Automobile industry. World famous Land Rover & jauguar is now manufactured by Tata. Tata Nano is being introduced in USA this year 2012.
India reached up to moon from a humble beginning in space technology. What you have ? there? This is to dicuss JF17 vs LCA Tejas your comments are not related to the subject.
1.Nothing you have bothered to mention above, without caring to inquire, is indigenous Indian. All poor copy cats. In fact, to prove themselves genius, to justify their existence and to fatten political leaders' Swiss accounts, DRDO, ISRO, etc have been trying to introduce something Indian in each perfectly fine eqpt, and thereby ruin it.

2. Why should I tell you where I am / was? Are you in GTNMO?
November 2nd, 2012  
ROCKERPUSS
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky71
1.Nothing you have bothered to mention above, without caring to inquire, is indigenous Indian. All poor copy cats. In fact, to prove themselves genius, to justify their existence and to fatten political leaders' Swiss accounts, DRDO, ISRO, etc have been trying to introduce something Indian in each perfectly fine eqpt, and thereby ruin it.

2. Why should I tell you where I am / was? Are you in GTNMO?

My dear friend,

India reached to moon. 20 Nos. LCA Tejas used by Indian Army. LCA tejas Naval version on test. We are in no hurry !! Kaveri Engine, a bit delayed but SURE will come out !!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INSAS_rifle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Sub_Machine_Carbine

Closing your eyes on facts above?? Your Quote " After spending buckets full of money Indian R&D organization DRDO has abandoned the LCA/Teja project. In fact, to date India has not been able to produce even an indigenous assault rifle!" is a wrong statement, completely, dear !
Are you Afghanistan or Africa or Pakistan?
HA HA !! hoo hoo !!


What you have there? Pirated softwares & dirty Internet-cafes OR muddy Kurta ? !!

Take education in Afghanistan my dear!! go and take your rightful seat in GTNMO where you find your cousins !
OR beg Chinese ! What is there at KAMRA complex, JF17 Made in Pakistan? fattening pockets Ministers by robbing poor Pakistani people ? So many foreign aircrafts flying over Paksitan & PAF could do nothing !!

What is GTNMO? GTN Mobile? There is no need to tell where are you, because everyone knows !.
Ha Ha !!
December 21st, 2013  
ROCKERPUSS
 
 
Finally, Tejas Light Combat Aircraft clears missile target test, to be inducted on Dec 20

India Today Online New Delhi, December 7, 2013 | UPDATED 22:19 IST
New Delhi: Outgoing IAF chief NAK Browne on Wednesday reviewed the progress of the Sulur air base where the force is to deploy its first squadron of the indigenously- developed Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), Tejas.
December 21st, 2013  
ROCKERPUSS
 
 

Topic: Tejas takes another step towards IAF induction


http://zeenews.india.com/videos/teja...ion_26084.html
December 28th, 2013  
ROCKERPUSS
 
 



Israeli derby BVR Missiles


LCA Tejas takes another step towards IAF induction

IAF Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) is the Smallest Lightest Aircraft among supersonic multirole fighters(4+ generation).
In its current form, Tejas is almost similar to a stealth as it has quite a few features in common with the coveted jet. "The wings are made entirely of composite structures. LCA integrates modern design concepts like static instability, integrated avionics, glass cockpit, primary composite structure, AESA radar, microprocessor based utility and brake management systems, HUD, Quad-redundant FBW Digital Flight Control System. Tejas is an amlgamation of contemplorary concepts & technologies, advanced glass cockpit, integrated digital avionics system & advanced composite body while other similar fighter jets using heavy Titanium metal airframe technology of 1950 era. LCA TejasPV-III, operation clearence (IOC) is awarded only after flying, 2500 sorties & rigorous testing. Tejas naval version is capable of taking off from ski jump of a ship. Other advanced modifications are on the way, but wait till LCA - MK IIs are ready and on the sky. Air frame is of composite material which makes the aircraft light & fly long distance, fast with little fuel which makes it similar to F15 Eagle, Eurojet fighters, Su 27MKII & Su-30MKI . LCA Tejas jetfighter engine F404-IN20 is manufacturered by General Electric USA, currenrly used by European figter jets. Tejas employs C-FC materials for up to 45% of its airframe by weight, including in the fuselage (doors and skins). RCS is much lower than JF17 & thrust weight ratio is better for LCA is more than one. Tejas is fitted with LITENING (IAI) surveillance & targeting pod. LCA will also carry the EL/M-2052 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar developed by IAI Elta. This agile radar, along with the DASH-3 helmet mounted display sight from Elbit Systems will enable a Tejas pilot to acquire targets at all combat ranges and engage them in full sphere, shooting the missiles by merely looking at the target. The aircraft will also be carrying the Litening targeting pod, enabling the LCA to deploy precision guided weapons of various types – from laser guided, to GPS or EO guided weapons. The principal partner of LCA is Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). Since Green-Red paints are solely used by Pakistan & China for JF17 there is a shortage of green-red color paints in the world market. LCA use another available color is not a great fighter jet built but not too bad on real war scenarios !!

LCA Tejas is also fitted with a night vision compatible glass cockpit with Martin Baker (UK) zero-zero ejection seats. The aircraft’s electronic warfare suite, developed by the Advanced Systems Integration and Evaluation Organization (ASIEO) of Bangalore, includes a radar warning receiver and jammer, laser warner, missile approach warner, chaff - flare dispenser and fly home guidance software, armed with Python 5, Beyond Visual Range missiles: Derby &, Astra, Medium-Range Active-Radar Homing Air-to-Air Missiles:Vympel R-77,Vympel R-73, Air-to-surface missiles: Kh-59ME (TV guided standoff Missile)Kh-59MK (Laser guided standoff Missile) Anti-ship missiles: Kh-35,Kh-31. The Derby is medium-range active-radar seeker air-to-air missile, that can hit targets at about 50 km. LCA’s design has been configured to match the demands of present highly modern precision combat scenario such as speed, acceleration, maneuverability and agility.

Moscow has given a categorical assurance that it will not allow China to supply JF-17 Thunder multi-role fighter aircraft to Pakistan equipped with Russian RD-93 engines. Mikhial Pogosyan believes that the Chinese-made cheaper FC-1 (US$10M) has become direct competition for expensive MiG-29(US$35M). He has virtually blocked the signing of the contract to deliver 100 RD-93 jet engines to China. So JF17 into assembly-production lines at KAMRA (KAC) Pakistan get further extended. Government sources confirmed that the Russian assurance was conveyed by Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov. http://english.pravda.ru/russia/econ...ighter_jets-0/

"PAF does not have the budget to buy new fighter planes from NATO countries nor the NATO countries are willing to sell to Pakistan, JF 17 was the last resort , even the chinese have not yet inducted JF 17, still in development phase (rumours say, JF 17 already been scrapped by Chinese Airforce-PLAAF along with its WS10/13 engines, (a nightmare to PAF Pilots) with an ailing economy PAF only option was to immediately induct a fighter jet and then carry out the testing, on other hand Chinese/Indian economies are not ailing like Pakistan, our induction is process is somewhat similar to NATO countries where a prototype is launched and then testing is done up to 2500 flight hrs or 10 to 14 yrs from the date of launch and in these meantime all other variants like Naval variant are also tested, PAF lacks resources and funds to upgrade and that's why JF 17 was inducted immediately to show a brave face, this is the reality".
Russia’s Klimov offered a variant of the RD-33 turbofan engine to power the fighter. Russia earlier had denied China from transferring the engine to Pakistan as it was against Russian policy and India’s interest, but later, for some reason, Russia had no issue in China supplying those engines to Pakistan. To international media they replied in diplomatic parlance, Chinese were in such a hurry that they had not heard the last word from Russia on this subject. It is believed that Pakistan is unsatisfied with the engine and a new deal for a different engine, most probably to have Snecma M53-P2 could be finalized. Rather than using the Ada programming language, which is developed dedicated for military applications, the software for the aircraft is written using the popular civilian C++ programming language which students use to develop programs in high schools, this might give an edge to Pakistan where software industry is not very skilled and C++ resources can be easily trained in large numbers (source: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...rounded-02984/). There are various rumors on Internet claiming that lack of RD-93 (and delay of WS-13 ) is slowing down production of JF-17. Widely advertised-published in you-tube videos, 3D animation graphics will make a great fighter JF-17 on screen, but won't make a compatible jetfighter on the real war scenarios. Net-Videos can only win clapping of school going children & common people.

The fighter aircraft, which obtained the Initial Operation Clearance on December 20, 2013 is a step away from induction into the IAF to replace the ageing IAF MiG-21 aircrafts. The immediate plan was to induct six squadrons of the IAF with the Tejas. This means about 120 aircrafts. Already, the IAF has placed orders for two squadrons. Similarly, the Indian Navy will have at least 40 of the naval version of the fighter aircraft.The LCA signals the country’s indigenous capability to develop a major air-based weapon platform and a step towards achieving self-reliance in aircraft design, fabrication and manufacture. It has laid a sound base for a smooth take off in the efforts to develop more advanced fighter aircrafts in the future, Avinash Chander, the Chief of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) said. The fighter-jet is our design, uses an Indian software (based on ADA), and is fully under our control. We are not sure what software in the JF-17 is under the PAF's control. What do you do if you don't have access to codes?"

http://www.livefistdefence.com/2010/...temporary.html
http://zeenews.india.com/videos/teja...ion_26084.html
http://www.defenceaviation.com/2011/...ching-kuo.html
July 9th, 2014  
ROCKERPUSS
 
 


Finally, Tejas gets electronic warfare systems Oct 16, 2013, DHNS: - After eight years of research and postponement, India’s first indigenous light combat aircraft (LCA) Tejas, positioned at HAL Bangalore, has finally been fitted with electronic warfare (EW) systems. Now, new test flights will happen with electronic warfare anytime during November or beginning of December. The 2,348 test flights of the LCA so far have not had electronic warfare. The new test flights will bring in new data and information for further development of the aircraft and the electronic systems.

The biggest game-changer, one that would make the Tejas a truly formidable multi-role fighter, could be the ongoing project to develop an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar. This advanced radar, which only US companies have truly mastered, is being developed for the Tejas by the DRDO laboratory, Electronics Research & Development Establishment (LRDE).

“Whether or not AESA radar is developed in time for the first Tejas Mark II, this radar will be retrofitted onto these fighters as soon as it is certified,” says the ADA chief.

The Tejas Mark II is also being configured to fire any advanced weaponry that the IAF acquires, e.g. any long-range air-to-air missiles (LRAAMs) that may be acquired along with the ongoing purchase of 126 Dassault Rafale fighters. The DRDO is developing an indigenous air-to-air missile, the Astra, but that is some way off from completion.

The production of 20 Tejas Mark I fighters ordered by the IAF is under way in HAL. This will be followed by another order for 20 more Tejas Mark I, once the fighter obtains final operational clearance, expected in 2015. While HAL is running well behind its objective of building 8 Tejas per year, the target for completion of these 40 fighters remains 2017. After that, the production of Tejas Mark II will begin, subject to successful flight-testing.

Sources in the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) told Deccan Herald that the LCA Prototype Vehicle-1 (PV-1) has now been fitted with a radar-warning receiver, a radar-warning jammer, laser warner, missile-approach warner, emitter, and a flare dispenser. The systems are now undergoing ground trials with aeronautical engineers simulating multiple threats to the aircraft. US Stealths F-35 even after 20th year development still under modernization. All US Stealth's fighter Jets are down due to a flaw in engine & Air circulation system.

U.S. Navy maintains grounding order for F-35 fighter jets
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Nobody wants to rush these aircraft back into the air before we know exactly what happened," Kirby said. The entire fleet of F-35s was grounded last week in response to an engine fire in an Air Force version of the plane in late June at Eglin, home to many of the planes.It would be a huge embarrassment to the United States if the jets are unable to appear at either air show, and could jeopardize export prospects for the new radar-evading plane just as two initial partners on the program - Canada and Denmark - are weighing fresh orders.
The engine failure had also prevented the F-35 from making an appearance at the July 4 naming ceremony for Britain's new aircraft carrier.
Dunaway said the Navy and other services are continuing to investigate the incident.
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ADA is evaluating the new avionics on the first Tejas prototype, designated PV-1, which is now too old for the flight-trial programme and will be used hereafter to test new systems. First up is a new Electronic Warfare system, designed by the Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) laboratory, Defence Avionics Research Establishment (DARE), which senses enemy radar signals and jams them effectively, making the Tejas hard to detect.

Next up for testing is a sophisticated on-board Oxygen generating system, developed by the DRDO’s Defence Bio-engineering and Electro-medical Laboratory (DEBEL), which continuously collects atmospheric Oxygen and supplies it to the pilot. Today, the capacity of the Oxygen bottles that contemporary fighters carry limit mission times; when Oxygen runs low, the pilot heads back to base. Now, the on-board Oxygen generating system, along with mid-air refuelling and the Tejas Mark II’s increased fuel load, will allow 3-4 hours of continuous flying, more than most fighters in the world. According to sources, the Indian Defence Ministry and HAL officials will be looking at demonstrations by overseas firms like Boeing and will choose from options given to produce the LCA. The Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), part of state-owned Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO), has also been working closely with HAL on the LCA project. Even ADA is pushing HAL to outsource more of the LCA Tejas’ production to accelerate the production levels to satisfy the IAF. Besides Boeing, HAL is also considering the production facilities of other major fighter plane manufacturers including Lockheed Martin in the US and Eurofighter in Europe. They are assessing how LCA Tejas’ production can be raised from the eight fighters per year that HAL’s Tejas production line in Bangalore will start building next year. The IAF will eventually need 120-140 LCAs while the Indian Navy will require another 20-40 fighters.


The production stage for LCA is 2012-13 and the IAF has placed an order for 40 LCA Mark-I model and the LCA Mark-II is likely to see a demand of around 200 aircraft. The IAF has not been fully satisfied with LCA-MK I and would want to change the GE-404 engines with greater thrust. Since the LCA-MK1 fighter jets did not meet the expected standards of performance, the IAF will turn to the development MK-II fighter jets, the aircraft will use a greater thrust GE-414 engine, to improve the operational performance.

Pakistan is developing advanced state of the art YouTube avionics & YouTube Engine for its JF17 Fighter since Russia denied AL31 engines for JF17 & hope to fight US Stealths F-35, Sukhoi PAKFA & LCA Tejas MKI &II through internet.