Originally Posted by lljadw

If you let us down and take the side of the Muslims ,our only alternative will be to ask the help of Putin and the role of the US in Europe will be finished,which means : no US fleet in the Mediterranean and the US out of the ME .

You only will have yourself to blame .

Attila the Hun is arriving in Europe, he also will visit the US .

So you're saying that Europe, the most educated and "cultured" people in the world...can't take care of their own problems? Furthermore, you're saying that you need the US to come and save you?

Who said anything about taking the side of the Muslims...I'm taking the side of liberty and freedom. If our system is as worthy and great as we proclaim it to be, then it will stand the test of time and prevail over tyranny.

As for you asking for Putins help...have at it! Drain their economy to the brink of collapse all you want. I'm curious how this Attila fellow plans on getting his horses and army across the Atlantic Ocean? Especially when he doesn't have a Navy or Merchant Marine...and we have the most powerful Navy that has ever existed on this planet...and Air force...and ground forces...Hell, I guess our military industrial complex is finally gonna pay off! Thanks Mr Attila! It is about time that pork barrel spending get put to good use!

Originally Posted by lljadw

If you let us down and take the side of the Muslims ,our only alternative will be to ask the help of Putin and the role of the US in Europe will be finished,which means : no US fleet in the Mediterranean and the US out of the ME .

You only will have yourself to blame .

Attila the Hun is arriving in Europe, he also will visit the US .

Umm wasnt Attila leader of the the Hunnic empire which comprised mainly of central European countries such as Hungary and parts of Western Russia which oddly enough is where Putin is right now so if he is coming it sounds like it would be at your invitation.

Originally Posted by lljadw

Attila the Hun is arriving in Europe, he also will visit the US .

The Huns originated in central Asia and plundered - murdered their way into central Europe where they menaced a weak Roman Empire. They were originally a Turkic - Mongol people, not Arabic and had little to do with the ME.

Regardless of the analogy how are they going to cross the Atlantic in mass? I hope you're not talking about the ~ 60.000 Muslims in Dearborn Michigan. The largest Muslim population in the US.
Some minor assimilation trouble exist, but for the most part they are on there way to becoming fine Americans, particularly the younger generation.

Originally Posted by JOC

The Huns originated in central Asia and plundered - murdered their way into central Europe where they menaced a weak Roman Empire. They were originally a Turkic - Mongol people, not Arabic and had little to do with the ME.

Regardless of the analogy how are they going to cross the Atlantic in mass? I hope you're not talking about the ~ 60.000 Muslims in Dearborn Michigan. The largest Muslim population in the US.
Some minor assimilation trouble exist, but for the most part they are on there way to becoming fine Americans, particularly the younger generation.

It was a comparison : 1500 years ago Attila was invading Europe, 500 years ago the Muslims were invading Europe, now they are back again .


About the presence of the Muslims in the US,to fixate on the 60000 in Dearborn and to talk about how they will cross the Atlantic,is not a wise thing : The 1.5 million who are coming to Europe this year do not need a big fleet ,and there are already more than 6 million Muslims in the US and these also did not need a big fleet.

And the presence of the Muslims cause also in the US not minor assimilation troubles but very big problems : exemple : the situation at the UCLA which remembers the situation in Germany a few weeks before the Kristallnacht .

Where Muslims constitute the majority,they perscute the non Muslims : exemples: Pakistan, Sudan, the ME.

Where they constitute a minority,their attitude is aggressive, intolerant, they demand privileges,they whine about perscution,but they attack the non Muslims : exemples : Europe (in Belgium several non Muslim women were attacked by Muslim men because they were smoking in public),the US,Australia,where they oppose the visit of the Dutch politician Geert Wilders.

Conclusion : I have no faith at all in the willingness of the average Muslim to accept/to be reconciled with Western democracy .

I know that a lot of people in the US still (desperately ?) are sticking to the illusion of the melting pot(which is founded on the illusion that all men are good from nature),but history learns us that it is an illusion,and,sooner or
later, illusions are always shattered .