Originally Posted by RnderSafe

I had heard the toothfairy, that's for the update!

I think he meant biased (?)

Thank you!

Originally Posted by AlexKall

Thank you!

Well,, I guess I was a bit more biased than I usually are on this one..
It's just that this has been tried som many times before, and it has almost always failed...
(and It's been a very stressful day at work now, leaving for Sweden early monday morning..)

I actually do not see a "bias" in the information provided, stating a personal opinion cannot really be considered biased (or every one of your posts would fall in the same category, AlexKall ), I have always viewed "bias" as what happens when someone takes some legitimate information and twists it to further or display their own agenda (see the "More American Evil" thread).

But on-topic, without U.S. military support in the city, I fear the operation is doomed to become a failure, from what I have heard, it doesn't seem that most of these insurgents/terrorists just want America out, they also want to take away the new found freedom of their fellow citizens and intall a government resembling that of Iran, so I do not see them bowing to the wishes of any democratic Iraqi government anymore than they would to our own.

Originally Posted by Redneck

I actually do not see a "bias" in the information provided, stating a personal opinion cannot really be considered biased (or every one of your posts would fall in the same category, AlexKall ), I have always viewed "bias" as what happens when someone takes some legitimate information and twists it to further or display their own agenda (see the "More American Evil" thread).

But on-topic, without U.S. military support in the city, I fear the operation is doomed to become a failure, from what I have heard, it doesn't seem that most of these insurgents/terrorists just want America out, they also want to take away the new found freedom of their fellow citizens and intall a government resembling that of Iran, so I do not see them bowing to the wishes of any democratic Iraqi government anymore than they would to our own.

My posts are allways biased besides those that are not

Rndersafe by that i meant, it will be alot of casualtys if USA launches a direct attack on the city. And us see Marines are falling back now. I sorry but i just dont get this everytime something hard comes in US way they just "releax" and let the other people do it for them

Originally Posted by Snauhi

Rndersafe by that i meant, it will be alot of casualtys if USA launches a direct attack on the city. And us see Marines are falling back now. I sorry but i just dont get this everytime something hard comes in US way they just "releax" and let the other people do it for them

Sorry, Snauhi, I don't know what world you're living in, but it sure as shooting isn't the one the rest of us are.

Originally Posted by Redleg

The Marines are planning to fall back from Fallujah.

A 600-1000 men strong force of Iraqi Police officers and former army personell will take over.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

Correction out now: the Iraqi force is going to be working WITH the USMC, not replacing them.

Will provide a link when Foxnews.com updates, just saw it on the news.

A senior defense official at the Pentagon said the Iraqi soldiers' initial mission is to man checkpoints around the city. Marines will remain on or near the city's perimeter and plan at a later stage to conduct their own patrols inside the city, the official said on condition of anonymity.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,118613,00.html

Who knows, this might help.

Originally Posted by Snauhi

Rndersafe by that i meant, it will be alot of casualtys if USA launches a direct attack on the city. And us see Marines are falling back now. I sorry but i just dont get this everytime something hard comes in US way they just "releax" and let the other people do it for them

I .. don't .... even know how to reply to this, it's so ... Tell me, how did you come to the conclusion that the US "relaxes" and lets "other people" handle difficult situations? I'm curious to know.

Originally Posted by RnderSafe

I .. don't .... even know how to reply to this, it's so ... Tell me, how did you come to the conclusion that the US "relaxes" and lets "other people" handle difficult situations? I'm curious to know.

look at al falujja now its lot of rebels there, US is supposed to take that city back its does not belong to US right now, but now marines are falling back and letting the Iraqis do the job. Same thing happend in Afganistan , northen alliance made almost all fighting. If you dont agree with this prove me wrong