Kick_in_the_eye said:Back in the Medieval times, when Europe was burning witches, Jews and Christians were tolerated within Islam and lived side by side.
And yes, even today this is so; Cairo as an example, has plenty of Churches.
Islam has an enemy by default, and it's Pagans. A Pagan is defined as an enemy of Islam, that is: a person or people that wish to destroy Islam and their beliefs. In that case they are entitled to self-defence.
Jews weren't the enemy in the 30'ies (the hatred versus Jews wasn't isolated to Germany), and Muslims aren't the enemy today.
the_13th_redneck said:The problem is not our lack of tolerance. It is their lack of tolerance. Tolerance must work both ways. If it works only one way, and the intolerant one's power is significant, what you have is merely surrender and defeat.
Kick_in_the_eye said:Yes I choose to close my eyes, if the alternative is to become a part of "the final solution" to the muslim problem. And that's where the danger lies if we look on Islam in itself as the problem.
Religion is based on interpretations. I've seen a lot of qoutes from the Quoran taken out of context lately, to make it look horrible and scary. I can do the same with the Bible and draw "conclusions" that Christians want to turn the world into a nightmare. But what's the point? Yes, there are groups within Islam that have dangerous views, but to assume that these views is shared by all muslims is... well, like me saying, "Americans are truly dangerous - they dress up in white and kill black people".
But how do you, or Doc S, or anyone else, suggest we should deal with this rising threat?
the_13th_redneck said:People who deny this is a problem are simply being ignorant. Of course they'll be the first to tell us we're the ignorant ones.
The politicians will speak out against this threat if it will get them elected. They will deny the threat if that gets them elected.
And of course if they have the balls to stand up against the politically correct special interest groups who couldn't care less if their actions lead to hundreds of dead people in the city square, as long as people stay politically correct.
gladius said:Its because of this kind of thinking that I believe we will have a war of civilizations. If people wake up now maybe this could be prevented, or at least kept from getting really big.
Doc.S said:Yes please, I would very much like to see this movie, and my wife too.
Cheers:
Doc.S
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Kick_in_the_eye said:This part I can agree with, but not in the same sence as you I believe. Look at A-Q. It started out as a fringe group, and now they are in the spotlight of a whole world. UBL wants to gain ground on his home turf, and the best way he can do this is to paint the world with fear and distrust. If he can polarize "his" people from the rest, the people in the middle east will do what people in trouble always do - they turn to strenght to avoid outside threats. This escalation becomes self-fullfilling, as more and more people choose to paint the world in black and white, the world will become more black and white. The west and middle east is filled with "useful idiots" that is more than willing to play along.
How the muslims are "infiltrating" our society with an evil agenda, how they will use their oil-money for the destruction of our economy... how they will sneak upon us. It's time to wake up! They are flooding our culture and our beliefs like rats, and they won't stop until they have world domination.
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