The Draft




 
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November 10th, 2014  
tetvet
 

Topic: The Draft


This is a good time to crank up the lottery get all the wild 'n crazy young men off the streets put an end to gang bangers , a 2 year hitch can do wonders , the military however doesn't want them I can understand that but many young men need a sense of direction and with a little help can become productive .
November 10th, 2014  
crazytanker
 
 
I don't agree with a draft. It's the kinda choice that needs to be made willingly.
November 10th, 2014  
JOC
 
 
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Originally Posted by crazytanker
I don't agree with a draft. It's the kinda choice that needs to be made willingly.
I think it has it's place like during WW2 when the army needed say 7 million men.
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November 11th, 2014  
crazytanker
 
 
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Originally Posted by JOC
I think it has it's place like during WW2 when the army needed say 7 million men.
Eh. Just in my opinion, not even then, because it is not easy to ask someone to give their life for his/her country. It is even harder to tell them to do it.
November 11th, 2014  
tetvet
 
Better to see the lads as burden on taxpayers , drugs , gangbangers , incarceration cost between 35k and 45k a year and we get nothing for the money .
November 11th, 2014  
Sara
 
 
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Originally Posted by tetvet
Better to see the lads as burden on taxpayers , drugs , gangbangers , incarceration cost between 35k and 45k a year and we get nothing for the money .
Were you drafted for Vietnam?
November 11th, 2014  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
The draft or mandatory military service is not a bad thing. There are limitations what a country can do with an army of conscripts. If the purpose of the military is to defend the homeland, then it works pretty good. The good thing is all human resources of a country are going into the military, or at least 50% of the resources unless the females are doing it too. The conscripts cannot be deployed abroad unless they have really good reasons to do so.


The mandatory military is beneficial for small countries when a professional military is to small to defend the country, but again that also depends on where it is and if the country is threaten by its neighbors or not. Israel comes to my mind here. A small country and only 5 million people (more or less) They cannot rely on a professional military.
November 11th, 2014  
tetvet
 
No I was a volunteer , was going to be sent there anyway so I asked to sent to the 1st Cav instead was sent to the 1st aviation Brigade , makes sense .
November 11th, 2014  
crazytanker
 
 
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Originally Posted by tetvet
No I was a volunteer , was going to be sent there anyway so I asked to sent to the 1st Cav instead was sent to the 1st aviation Brigade , makes sense .
That's the Army for ya. They'll send you where ever they feel like sending ya.

On the flip side, one of the challenges with a draft is that when they get to basic. They have a bad attitude, hate the Army, hate the government, and don't want to be there. That's where the saying you'll be disciplined or you'll be the most physically fit soldier in the Army comes in.
November 11th, 2014  
brinktk
 
 
I think it is a question of pragmatism. The US military has historically been successful with a conscript Army throughout history. The Rev war, 1812, Mex-Amer, Civil War, WWI, and WWII were all won with conscripted militaries. Korea and Vietnam were also fought with largely conscripted militaries which meant most people had skin in the fight.

I think that if the US decides we are to go to war, then some form of national service should be required so that everyone is involved in the war. That will help bridge the gap in the massive chasm that has formed between the military and the civilian population in this country. It will also help ensure we are going to war for the right reasons. The population would have never allowed a 13+ years war be fought continuously with a conscripted military. With an all volunteer one...it has and it will because we are easily forgotten about or it is justified in the public's mind as "well they volunteered so they get what they get".

On the other hand, that should be the ONLY time conscription should be used. It is not the militaries job to discipline the youth of America. It is not the militaries job to give a sense of patriotism or appreciation for their country to the youth of America. It is the militaries job to fight and win Americas wars PERIOD.

Just my two cents...
 


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