Don't fault Israel for Palestinians' intransigence - Page 8

December 22nd, 2012  
Originally Posted by MontyB

And I will let international law determine what a refugee is...

Under international law, refugees are individuals who:
  • are outside their country of nationality or habitual residence;
  • have a well-founded fear of persecution because of their race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion; and
  • are unable or unwilling to avail themselves of the protection of that country, or to return there, for fear of persecution.
Palestinian refugees from 1948 and their descendants do not come under the 1951 UN Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, but under the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East, which created its own criteria for refugee classification. The great majority of Palestinian refugees have kept the refugee status for generations, under a special decree of the UN.
Palestine refugees

Who are Palestine refugees?

Under UNRWA's operational definition, Palestine refugees are people whose normal place of residence was Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict.
UNRWA's services are available to all those living in its area of operations who meet this definition, who are registered with the Agency and who need assistance. The descendants of the original Palestine refugees are also eligible for registration. When the Agency started working in 1950, it was responding to the needs of about 750,000 Palestine refugees. Today, 5 million Palestine refugees are eligible for UNRWA services.
Where do Palestine refugees live?

One-third of the registered Palestine refugees, more than 1.4 million, live in 58 recognised refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, the Syrian Arab Republic, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.
A camp, according to UNRWA's working definition, is a plot of land placed at the disposal of UNRWA by the host government to accommodate Palestine refugees and to set up facilities to cater to their needs. Areas not designated as such are not considered camps. However, UNRWA also maintains schools, health centres and distribution centres in areas outside camps where Palestine refugees are concentrated, such as Yarmouk near Damascus, in Syria.
The plots of land on which camps were set up are either state land or, in most cases, land leased by the host government from local landowners. This means that the refugees in camps do not "own" the land on which their shelters were built, but have the right to "use" the land for a residence.
Socio-economic conditions in the camps are generally poor, with high population density, cramped living conditions and inadequate basic infrastructure such as roads and sewers.
UNRWA’s responsibility in camps

UNRWA's responsibility in the camps is limited to providing services and administering its installations. The Agency does not own, administer or police the camps as this is the responsibility of the host authorities.
UNRWA has a camp services office in each camp, which the residents visit to update their records or to raise issues relating to Agency services with the camp services officer (CSO). The CSO, in turn, refers refugee concerns and petitions to the UNRWA administration in the area in which the camp is located.
1967 war

Ten camps were established in the aftermath of the June 1967 war and the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, to accommodate a new wave of displaced persons, both refugees and non-refugees.
Cities and towns

The other two-thirds of the registered refugees live in and around the cities and towns of the host countries, and in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, often in the environs of official camps. While most of UNRWA's installations such as schools and health centres are located in refugee camps, a number are outside camps and all of the Agency's services are available to both camp and non-camp residents.

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I am not sure how much you are being paid to be a shill but I have to say they are not getting their moneys worth from you as I think you have turned more people against Israel through piss poor arguments, dodgy facts and historical interpretation that you have managed to win over to your cause.
The UNRWA was mandated to carry out “relief and works programmes” not to enforce a refugee solution. That's the task of the UN Counsil that has the power to enforce it. What the UNRWA does is to register people who, according to their rules, comply as a refugee. International law gives no refugee status to descendants of refugees. UNRWA does register descendants of original refugees, so they are eligible to support.

There's a difference between the legal status of a refugee according to international law and the registration as a refugee by the UNRWA (or UNHCR).
the legal status of refugees in international law are the 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees (1951 Convention) and its 1967 Protocol. Although the 1951 Convention and the 1967 Protocol are applicable to States, people meeting the eligibility criteria set out in them are refugees of concern to UNHCR (The United Nations and Palestinian Refugees)
December 26th, 2012  
In my opinion the best military force is useless, unless the government follows a plan to get the world power. What did all the american soldiers died for in Iraq? Will the U.S. government create a "United States of the World"? Or did they only die for the money? If the US government would have followed a plan to create the "United States of the World" as early as possible, some wars would have been avoidable.
December 29th, 2012  
Do the US have pro western political parties, private and independent mass medias (which make propaganda for the western political parties) and armed forces in every state of the world? And if not, why not? Is it not necessary to get the world power? And then they complain why they have to send so many troops to bring the people democraty.
December 30th, 2012  
When you are getting screwed at every turn then why should you want to comply with your neighbours wishes. If a Jewish settler takes land from a Palestinian by force and the Palestinian objects or resists he becomes a terrorist and can be killed.
Palestine started building a small port along its coast and this was destroyed by Israel, they built a international airport to allow direct contact with out side world and this was destroyed by Israel now the Palestine people have to import every thing through Israel and pay a tax to do so. Now if you were a Palestinian would you be inclined to fight back or would you think that you are getting a good deal.
January 7th, 2013  
I found out why the US government does not want to get the world power:

It is clearly descriped from 2:43 to 3:08
January 7th, 2013  
But... they are a world power. Your argument is flawed.
January 9th, 2013  
The IMF today in a nutshell.

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U.K. Repeat Traffic violator's rehabilitation advice.

Take Your pick.
May 11th, 2013  
Israel has the right to defend herself against terrorists and barbars

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