which country is the most aggressive country? - Page 3




 
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December 9th, 2004  
rocco
 
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china is just as aggressive. look at what they did to tibet.
they started a war with india, they back invasions in both vietnam and korea. they supported NK nuclear program, they have helped arm countries like pakistan and iran. have a bad human rights record. etc.

china v tibet - http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita.../war/tibet.htm

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The Chinese Government strictly controls access to and information about Tibet. Thus, it is difficult to determine accurately the scope of human rights abuses. However, according to credible reports, Chinese government authorities continued to commit serious human rights abuses in Tibet, including instances of torture, arbitrary arrest, detention without public trial, and lengthy detention of Tibetan nationalists for peacefully expressing their political or religious views
india v china - http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...o-prc_1962.htm

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the Chinese attacked India on October 20, 1962
vietnam -
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In February 1979 China attacked along virtually the entire Sino-Vietnamese border in a brief, limited campaign that involved ground forces only
http://www.fas.org/news/pakistan/1996/960207.htm
---> sells pakistan ring magnets and most likely other key parts, this leads to pakistan spreading nukes to its friendly nations = iran, iran spreads nukes to its friends in the future = terrorists.
never trust an ayotollah with the bomb.

and human rights abusies. we dont even need to go into that one. i thought that was already set in stone, tianaman square anybody?

anyhow the purpose of my comments were because im showing that america is not the most aggressive. just because its a democracy and thus unfortunately every tom dick and harry knows its little secrets, doesnt mean its worse than countries like china who dont tell anybody about their mistreatment of human biengs. why did i use china as an example? read the first post. anyhow, i got nuthing against china. imo they are working their way to a good democracy, and \ i believe the whole world will/is benefit from china in the future, big time. i just dont like hearing "america is most agressive" when we got dictatorships like iran around.
December 11th, 2004  
Kinection
 
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they have helped arm countries like pakistan and iran
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sells pakistan ring magnets and most likely other key parts, this leads to pakistan spreading nukes to its friendly nations = iran, iran spreads nukes to its friends in the future = terrorists.
US armed Afghanistan and Iraq.

About arms, US is the world's biggest arms seller.

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But at the same time you can't name a single other country that hasn't supported some type of assassination or hasn't gone to war over their own interests, be it land or oil or whatever you come up with.
I'm going to take a jab at this one: Vatican, Switzerland?


China vs. Vietnam was the product of Vietnam invading Cambodia.
December 11th, 2004  
egoz
 
i'm unfamiliar with the history of the vatican or switzerland. but i still doubt they have never defended their own interests through war or otherwise.
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December 11th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
The problem with bringing up Tianamen Square and Tibet is that -- as nearly as I can tell -- the people of the PRC are firmly convinced that the PRC has never ever done anything wrong, that its soldiers have never committed warcrimes (they'd be the first army in history to do that if it were true), and that every action taken by the PRC was 100% necessary and essential. Some may feel that the Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward might have been bad points, but I'm not completely sure.

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Originally Posted by Kinection
US armed Afghanistan and Iraq.

About arms, US is the world's biggest arms seller.
We didn't aid either with developing the capabilities for making Nuclear Warheads. Iraq's arms were almost entirely French or Soviet made BTW.
December 11th, 2004  
EagleZtrike
 
 
United States is aggressive. Maybe a bit too aggressive. For some reason I like how the nation was run when it was the World War II time period. Do not get involved unless absolutely necessary.
December 11th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
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Originally Posted by EagleStrike
United States is aggressive. Maybe a bit too aggressive. For some reason I like how the nation was run when it was the World War II time period. Do not get involved unless absolutely necessary.
It is the miserable failure of Isolationism as a policy that directly lead to current US foreign policy.

If I had a way to make it happen, I'd setup a decent World Government -- one that was actually capable of doing something when needed -- and retire the USA from its self-appointed role as World Policeman.
December 11th, 2004  
EagleZtrike
 
 
Yeah godofthunder good points. America needs to stop being the world police. They are getting TOO involved. Other nation's are already starting to hate us for this.
We need Franklin D. Roosevelt back.

Yeah and isolationism. They shouldn't be too isolated but they shouldn't be too aggressive either.

The second most aggressive country would probably be North Korea. Notice many countries think they have nukes and are hesitant to react because of the aggresiveness of North Korea.
December 11th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
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Originally Posted by EagleStrike
The second most aggressive country would probably be North Korea. Notice many countries think they have nukes and are hesitant to react because of the aggresiveness of North Korea.
They talk a lot of trash and try to be all menacing, but they haven't actually invaded anyone since the Korean War. I don't trust them one bit, mind you.

China also hasn't attacked anyone recently, but the Chinese invasion of Vietnam was definitley more recent than the Korean War.
December 11th, 2004  
Trevor
 
Right now, I'd probably say Iran. It's relations are at it's worst right now.
December 13th, 2004  
PLAbuddy
 
i think U.S has the most ugly track list of waging war on others

U.S think itself as world police stuff...who gives them authority to just knock ppl down

if they think they are demoratic god something, why don't they fix china..
not dare to?

china pocess more dirty weapons then iraq, and china gives those tech to countries like north korea , liberia, pakistan, and even some rumours say china supports some terriost group...

U.S just know how to pick on weaklings