Could the U.S have conquered earth? - Page 2




 
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September 30th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
Didn't take the Soviets more than a year or two to spy out everything they needed to know. We weren't in a position to make them fast enough to nuke all opposition before the oppostions got their own.
That's why I said if US could produce 2 nukes per month.

24 nukes should be completely enough to destroy Soviet Union, after that a conventional army could conquer everything.
September 30th, 2004  
battery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingFrog
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
Didn't take the Soviets more than a year or two to spy out everything they needed to know. We weren't in a position to make them fast enough to nuke all opposition before the oppostions got their own.
That's why I said if US could produce 2 nukes per month.

24 nukes should be completely enough to destroy Soviet Union, after that a conventional army could conquer everything.


I'm just looking for other peoples opinions... But yes, You're thinking what I am thinking. Take out all nations that had a clue about nuclear tech.
September 30th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
I don't think the US would have had the level of tyranny neccessary to do such a thing.
If the US had a monopoly on nuclear weapons and had the WILL to nuke anyone who disobeyed, I think they very well could have controlled the world.
The man power part wouldn't really be neccessary. All you need is spies and troops in key locations. Lots of spies would be neccessary though to keep an eye on what people are doing. Remove those leaders who are not faithful to you and nuke the people who are against you.
Also you must control all the world's press and make sure you have a healthy propaganda machine providing the whole world's news.

So you would need:
1) Monopoly on Nukes
2) Tyranny (I mean REAL tyranny, not the "America the oppressor today" type of bull**** tyranny)
3) Monopoly of press and high levels of propaganda.
4) Espionage networks.
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September 30th, 2004  
battery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
I don't think the US would have had the level of tyranny neccessary to do such a thing.
If the US had a monopoly on nuclear weapons and had the WILL to nuke anyone who disobeyed, I think they very well could have controlled the world.
The man power part wouldn't really be neccessary. All you need is spies and troops in key locations. Lots of spies would be neccessary though to keep an eye on what people are doing. Remove those leaders who are not faithful to you and nuke the people who are against you.
Also you must control all the world's press and make sure you have a healthy propaganda machine providing the whole world's news.

So you would need:
1) Monopoly on Nukes
2) Tyranny (I mean REAL tyranny, not the "America the oppressor today" type of bull**** tyranny)
3) Monopoly of press and high levels of propaganda.
4) Espionage networks.
Yes, Agreed. Our president would have needed to present one HELL of a speech to congress also.
September 30th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Tyranny. Dictatorship. Rubber Stamp Congress. Disagree with dictator in chief? You'll be face down in a ditch with a 9mm hole in the back of your head.
September 30th, 2004  
battery
 
Very interesting...
September 30th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
I don't think the US would have had the level of tyranny neccessary to do such a thing.
If the US had a monopoly on nuclear weapons and had the WILL to nuke anyone who disobeyed, I think they very well could have controlled the world.
The man power part wouldn't really be neccessary. All you need is spies and troops in key locations. Lots of spies would be neccessary though to keep an eye on what people are doing. Remove those leaders who are not faithful to you and nuke the people who are against you.
Also you must control all the world's press and make sure you have a healthy propaganda machine providing the whole world's news.

So you would need:
1) Monopoly on Nukes
2) Tyranny (I mean REAL tyranny, not the "America the oppressor today" type of bull**** tyranny)
3) Monopoly of press and high levels of propaganda.
4) Espionage networks.
Yeah, this is pretty valid. The US would have had to reinvent itself completely before it would have been able to happen. Even then, I don't think it would have worked out. I think that the world would grow wise to the US very quickly and everyone would combine to destroy them.
September 30th, 2004  
battery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
I don't think the US would have had the level of tyranny neccessary to do such a thing.
If the US had a monopoly on nuclear weapons and had the WILL to nuke anyone who disobeyed, I think they very well could have controlled the world.
The man power part wouldn't really be neccessary. All you need is spies and troops in key locations. Lots of spies would be neccessary though to keep an eye on what people are doing. Remove those leaders who are not faithful to you and nuke the people who are against you.
Also you must control all the world's press and make sure you have a healthy propaganda machine providing the whole world's news.

So you would need:
1) Monopoly on Nukes
2) Tyranny (I mean REAL tyranny, not the "America the oppressor today" type of bull**** tyranny)
3) Monopoly of press and high levels of propaganda.
4) Espionage networks.
Yeah, this is pretty valid. The US would have had to reinvent itself completely before it would have been able to happen. Even then, I don't think it would have worked out. I think that the world would grow wise to the US very quickly and everyone would combine to destroy them.

It's hard for me to repel this. What would we be doing that would make nations "grow wise" to our actions?
September 30th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
If we, for instance, begin a campaign of conquest of North and South America, there is very little that the USA could do to disguise it. It becomes all the more obvious when we move on to the invasion of Africa and Eurasia. Diplomacy and misinformation can only cover you to a point.
September 30th, 2004  
battery
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
If we, for instance, begin a campaign of conquest of North and South America, there is very little that the USA could do to disguise it. It becomes all the more obvious when we move on to the invasion of Africa and Eurasia. Diplomacy and misinformation can only cover you to a point.

This is true, who is to say the invasion would start with Canada and South America though?