Conservatives won elections in Sweden
I reckon that welfare states like weden can survive for quite a while. If you look at what it brought them, richest country, best social security, highest level of Uni grads... all in all, they are doing very well.
Besides, in countries like that a newly elected government can't just shut down an entire system. a) Promising this would never get them elected. b) Why would they, things are going well? c) Because legislation works different overhere, you can't change policy in a month. d) The politicians chance but the bureaucrats doing the actual execution of policy remain the same. And they have many ways of thwarting new policy.
Besides, in countries like that a newly elected government can't just shut down an entire system. a) Promising this would never get them elected. b) Why would they, things are going well? c) Because legislation works different overhere, you can't change policy in a month. d) The politicians chance but the bureaucrats doing the actual execution of policy remain the same. And they have many ways of thwarting new policy.
Nah it will to 99% still remain a welfare state, just some minor changes as it seems now. Have to remember that there's actually 4 political parties in an allience. Should hopefully be better for the soldiers with this allience if they can start to fully agree which I never think will happen.
sunb!
Forum Barbecuer
I hope for the same to happen in Norway at the next election, the current socialistic-left, labour, centre party coalition is pulling in each end and the rope is thightning around the tax payers necks...
I think Sweden will prosper with the new gouvernment, it was time for a change.
I think Sweden will prosper with the new gouvernment, it was time for a change.
5.56X45mm
Milforum Mac Daddy
Crazy Europeans. You guys always talk about new governments and such. Multi-Party Alliances within the government. I'll never understand. I like my American Government, SIMPLE. Been the same one since March 4, 1789. Well, good luck and I hope that those with liberal/socialist governments fix the problem and adopt something that doesn't involve a nanny state.
Donkey
Active member
Interesting I was looking for a picture of some Swedish women because well you know the stereotype...hehehe...anyways on a sad note I found this...
http://www.africancrisis.org/ZZZ/ZZZ_News_6510.asp
I wonder if Sweden isnt the paradise it is made out to be...
Upon looking more
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/09/sweden-steep-rise-in-crime.html
Now I havent really started looking into this and yes those articles are about a year old...But how much can change in a year when it is at that level...Perhaps this new "government" will take care of the problem...
So you ask why would the sweedes change something that has been working...well I dont think it has been working....
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More links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden
Look the system that didnt work
http://laissez-fairerepublic.com/Sweden.htm
http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2004/04/facts_about_swe.html
From the looks of it Swedens welfare state isnt so hot....
http://www.africancrisis.org/ZZZ/ZZZ_News_6510.asp
I wonder if Sweden isnt the paradise it is made out to be...
Upon looking more
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/09/sweden-steep-rise-in-crime.html
Now I havent really started looking into this and yes those articles are about a year old...But how much can change in a year when it is at that level...Perhaps this new "government" will take care of the problem...
So you ask why would the sweedes change something that has been working...well I dont think it has been working....
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More links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden
Look the system that didnt work
http://laissez-fairerepublic.com/Sweden.htm
http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2004/04/facts_about_swe.html
From the looks of it Swedens welfare state isnt so hot....
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sunb!
Forum Barbecuer
Give me a green card and I will sort my bags immediately :thumb:
MontyB
All-Blacks Supporter
Hehe that seems to be a problem with Labour parties all over, generally we have centre right governments but for the last decade or so we have seen a switching of roles to the point that our old centre left party is now a centre right and the old centre right is preaching left wing policies.
I think in New Zealand we tend to vote parties out of power once we are sick of them rather than vote a new one in.
WarMachine
Active member
Political parties change all the time, i bet you the center right parties will lose to the left in the next few years anyway, i'm pretty sure that see-sawing pattern has been the norm for quite some time.
I think the scandinavian countries have been doing well for themselves for quite some time, but it's probably due to their mentality of concentrating on domestic matters with a relatively small population. The one downside i see is the high taxes, but if you have many of your needs taken care of by an efficient national apparatus, then i think you don't have much of a problem.
I think the scandinavian countries have been doing well for themselves for quite some time, but it's probably due to their mentality of concentrating on domestic matters with a relatively small population. The one downside i see is the high taxes, but if you have many of your needs taken care of by an efficient national apparatus, then i think you don't have much of a problem.
sunb!
Forum Barbecuer
That is the same thing we do in Norway, but the labour party is too big (has declined on the ranks the past two weeks after a major clash with the sick leave payments) and has always been the leading party since 1945, they will have a say in most cases I'm afraid.
We should demonstrate and whine more, such as the French, but instead we sit quiet accepting what they tell us.... :???:
This is what the socalist did in a nut shell. The biggest problem isnt that the crime is incresing, its the reason behind it that is the problem. The socialist alliance has drasticly reduced the Sweden's whole police force to a scratch of what it once was. That is the biggest problem, hopefully that is one thing that will be changed.
"I hope for the same to happen in Norway at the next election, the current socialistic-left, labour, centre party coalition is pulling in each end and the rope is thightning around the tax payers necks...
I think Sweden will prosper with the new gouvernment, it was time for a change."
I do hope so, unfortently those that has been paying the government for most part of their lifes are now basicly told to "F*** OFF!", that its the biggest reason why I dislike the the "far" right.
MontyB
All-Blacks Supporter
We have had mostly National (conservative) governments since WW2 however few if any make it past 9 years (3 elections). As far as protesting goes well thats not really a Kiwi thing, in general we just dont care enough about politics to really be bothered with politicians.