China's nuclear and ICBM power




 
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February 15th, 2005  
Sexybeast
 

Topic: China's nuclear and ICBM power


how many nukes china have? always a mystery,
the estimations range from 300 to 2350 nukes..

according to one article of 2350 nukes, they make their number based on the amount of uranium-235and plutonium-239,
china produces 800 kg of U-235 and 400 kg of pu-239 each year in five places

Lanzhou Gaseous Diffusion Plant)400kg U-235/year
  Helan Shan 400kgU-235/year
  Yumen 250kg Pu-239/year
  Baotou 150kg Pu-239/year
  Guangyuan ???

if making a nuke needs only 15 kg U-235 or over 5 kg Pu-239.....the amount china produces can build over 100 bombs each year since 1980......
it really give a big question mark how mnay nukes china has



talking about missiles

People’s Republic of China
http://www.missilethreat.com/missiles/

the most widely used ICBMs are DF-4 or DF5 or DF-5A (over 20 of them with range of 12000km and capable of multi warheads)....all liquid

the new ones are DF-31A, or JL-2 (12000km) and DF-41, all solid..

according to missile threat site, china now has 8 DF-31As...while the new JL-2 (probalby over 10000km) will be soon operational as the New type 094 nuke sub has finished last year


according to washington post (i dont like this newspaper, always spreading rumours and causing badblood between U.S and China), china will have more than 30 ICBMs capable of hitting U.S this year and more 100 after 2010) and most of them will be solid fueled and very hard to be tracked by satellite
February 15th, 2005  
EagleZtrike
 
 
What you have to be worried about is a country that has nothing to lose that has nukes. They'll just fire away nukes.
February 15th, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
china seems to have providing missile and nuke tech to nations like Iran,

providing missile tech is for sure now as U.S has just banned 6 chinese companies (including Northen China industrial enterpise, a very important weapon company), for giving Iran missile tech...


on nuke issue, rumour says western intelligence spotted chinese experts in Iranian nuclear facilities
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February 15th, 2005  
gingerbeard
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexybeast
china seems to have providing missile and nuke tech to nations like Iran,

providing missile tech is for sure now as U.S has just banned 6 chinese companies (including Northen China industrial enterpise, a very important weapon company), for giving Iran missile tech...


on nuke issue, rumour says western intelligence spotted chinese experts in Iranian nuclear facilities
well i wont be surprised, US want a containment of china, so of course china want ot divert US attention. also i would say china would like Iran more than US.
February 15th, 2005  
Xion
 
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well u got to know there are more accidents in india than chinese. u got to know too that news only report accident, why do u think news would report each day about successful mining in china? some parts of china is poor and some parts are not, of course the poor part is undeveloped so u cant really say chinese dunno mining.

its like when USAF practice using the F-16, then crashes a few times, then u r saying that USAF should learn to fly.
good you said that yourself , same applies to India, say this to yourself now...

"u got to know too that news only report accident, why do u think news would report each day about successful things in India ?"

learn to read carefully
i gave that example in conjunction with sexybeasts posts , if he can always point out the negative factors of India and then conclude that he doubts india's capability or say that India should first attain 100 % literacy and then think about importing military equipment , china should do the same.

Quote:
its like when USAF practice using the F-16, then crashes a few times, then u r saying that USAF should learn to fly.
hmm, now you say that and when there are similar incidents with the LCA or Arjun you are quick to pounce upon India and say that India and doubt its capability.

Notice no one was ever mentioning about china in that thread.
its you ppl who are always converting any india topic into a india china flame war, better do not comment.
thankyou.
February 15th, 2005  
gingerbeard
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xion
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well u got to know there are more accidents in india than chinese. u got to know too that news only report accident, why do u think news would report each day about successful mining in china? some parts of china is poor and some parts are not, of course the poor part is undeveloped so u cant really say chinese dunno mining.

its like when USAF practice using the F-16, then crashes a few times, then u r saying that USAF should learn to fly.
good you said that yourself , same applies to India, say this to yourself now...

"u got to know too that news only report accident, why do u think news would report each day about successful things in India ?"

learn to read carefully
i gave that example in conjunction with sexybeasts posts , if he can always point out the negative factors of India and then conclude that he doubts india's capability or say that India should first attain 100 % literacy and then think about importing military equipment , china should do the same.

Quote:
its like when USAF practice using the F-16, then crashes a few times, then u r saying that USAF should learn to fly.
hmm, now you say that and when there are similar incidents with the LCA or Arjun you are quick to pounce upon India and say that India and doubt its capability.

Notice no one was ever mentioning about china in that thread.
its you ppl who are always converting any india topic into a india china flame war, better do not comment.
thankyou.
well if u read back, it was raj who quated china first, i think u should learn to read. also learn to read that this thread is irrelvant to waht u r trying to say now.[/size]
"good you said that yourself , same applies to India, say this to yourself now...

"u got to know too that news only report accident, why do u think news would report each day about successful things in India ?"

learn to read carefully
i gave that example in conjunction with sexybeasts posts , if he can always point out the negative factors of India and then conclude that he doubts india's capability or say that India should first attain 100 % literacy and then think about importing military equipment , china should do the same."

say that to urself too. in the last post,

i have said it already. china as a country and militarly is ahead of india. china nad india are a different country and have different needs. as i said before india's infrastructure cannot repair most of the russian weaponary as it proved so by sending millions of money for russia to repair them.

now let's stop this. u are saying that i am flaming stuff but u dun realise that it was the starter of that thread who stated india can hold off china, which i disagree. if u cannot take crtitism then dun debate. if u want me to prove china is a better country at the moment compare to india, start up a new thread and i can show u statistics. i think u would know the answer already.

most of the flame are just caused by some ppl's immature behavior when they post irrelevant replies and cannot take critism.

even the F22 has faults. all weapons has faults. nothing is 100% and i didnt say india doubt its capablilty either. all i said is india cannot repair its russia weaponary. then peter pan came along and flame things up. u better read tho whole last thread before u accuse me of taking BS which i didnt even mention and meant. now say that to urself, u should go learn to read too.

it looks like some ppl cannot take critism flaming up rather than me. look in the previous thread. it was peaceful until peter pan came.

and also, u r flaming up, stop this. thank you. read the title of the thread plz.
February 15th, 2005  
gingerbeard
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleStrike
What you have to be worried about is a country that has nothing to lose that has nukes. They'll just fire away nukes.
yes, i know what u mean, but the point is, US action seems to show this: if u dun have nukes, we'll bully u (iraq), if u do, we will just whine (NK).

that's why the middle east want to arm themselves with nukes.
February 15th, 2005  
gingerbeard
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexybeast
china seems to have providing missile and nuke tech to nations like Iran,

providing missile tech is for sure now as U.S has just banned 6 chinese companies (including Northen China industrial enterpise, a very important weapon company), for giving Iran missile tech...


on nuke issue, rumour says western intelligence spotted chinese experts in Iranian nuclear facilities
i doubt it, it is banned yes, but that doesnt mean they dun secretly help Iran. they probably do. i read on some newspaper where Iran recently has some advance chinese missiles........
February 15th, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xion
Quote:
well u got to know there are more accidents in india than chinese. u got to know too that news only report accident, why do u think news would report each day about successful mining in china? some parts of china is poor and some parts are not, of course the poor part is undeveloped so u cant really say chinese dunno mining.

its like when USAF practice using the F-16, then crashes a few times, then u r saying that USAF should learn to fly.
good you said that yourself , same applies to India, say this to yourself now...

"u got to know too that news only report accident, why do u think news would report each day about successful things in India ?"

learn to read carefully
i gave that example in conjunction with sexybeasts posts , if he can always point out the negative factors of India and then conclude that he doubts india's capability or say that India should first attain 100 % literacy and then think about importing military equipment , china should do the same.

Quote:
its like when USAF practice using the F-16, then crashes a few times, then u r saying that USAF should learn to fly.
hmm, now you say that and when there are similar incidents with the LCA or Arjun you are quick to pounce upon India and say that India and doubt its capability.

Notice no one was ever mentioning about china in that thread.
its you ppl who are always converting any india topic into a india china flame war, better do not comment.
thankyou.
wut r u talking about????? is taht related to china's nuke power???
February 16th, 2005  
gingerbeard
 
i think really it shoudl stop, it aint going to go anywhere and i dun want this topic to be banned.