Can a new Palestine state be established peacefully? - Page 2




 
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December 16th, 2004  
Skinny
 
 
I don't think so. The Palestinians want Jeruselum, just as much as the Jews do.
December 16th, 2004  
Locke
 
 
the thing is, they both claim religious rights the land.
if you go back far enough, there was Abraham, whom God told he would have decendants "numbering the stars"
he had a number or sons, but most notable are
*Isaac, who had a son Jacob who was involved in the 12 tribes of israel. so the israelis claim that region as thiers"
*Ishmael who is thought by Islam to be the son that Abraham almost sacrificed.

so both of them lay claim to the land by religious birthrights, and legitimately so, since both religions technically had the same "father"

i konw i haven't explained it very clearly, but basically: the "founders" of each religion were brothers.
December 16th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Only if the the jews are thrown into the sea- it will not be resolved for a long, long time.
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December 16th, 2004  
dougal
 
 
Quote:
let me repeat my quesion again , and could u give me an answer?

anyone jewish here?

but i ve learned BIble right? the land seems to belong to Isreal and Jewish ppl by God's law,

is that a convincing reason for Jewish ppl to stay there?
You couuldt have read the bible.

God doesnt have rules on land, he doesnt see countries but his creation, doesnt see religions but his children, he doesnt see belongings but sharing.
December 16th, 2004  
Locke
 
 
and, the bible isn't meant to be read all in one go, its not that sort of book
December 16th, 2004  
Doc.S
 
Yes if you live in Disney world there will be a Palestine state built up peacefully. As long as Hamas and Hizbollah togheter with PLO running loose on the streets with European support as freedom fighters in the socialist "majority" of the pplīs eyes, this dream will only stay a dream.

("majority" = Half of them dont give a damn)


What you have to decide is what
kind of person you are? Are you
the type who believes in miracles
and looks for signs or are you the
kind who believes, things just
happen by chance?


-Father Graham-
-Movie Signs-

Cheers:
Doc.S
December 16th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
lets not make this a religous thing. if we do, it will become impossible to discuss. also, thequestion was not who is right, but can there be a fre and independent palestine anytime soon.

I believe the ansawer is yes. If Hammas and Jihad laydown their weapons, than there is chance. If the Israeli leadership can withstand internal preasure, than there is chance.

My bet: dont hold your breath. I expect a free Palestine in about 5-10 years.
December 17th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
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Originally Posted by SHERMAN
lets not make this a religous thing. if we do, it will become impossible to discuss. also, thequestion was not who is right, but can there be a fre and independent palestine anytime soon.

I believe the ansawer is yes. If Hammas and Jihad laydown their weapons, than there is chance. If the Israeli leadership can withstand internal preasure, than there is chance.

My bet: dont hold your breath. I expect a free Palestine in about 5-10 years.
Establishing a Palestinian State would require the extremists to acknowledge Israel's right to exist -- I doubt they'll do that. They've never considered the idea before.

Right or wrong, Israel is there. They're not going to pack up and leave. If the Palestinian Extremists can't acknowledge that, the the Palestinian People need to do everything in their power to dismantle and destroy such groups so that a Palestinian State can be possible. As of now, it would only end up becoming a safe haven for Hamas and the rest - something that Israel can't allow.
December 17th, 2004  
PLAbuddy
 
"You couuldt have read the bible.", said by a buddy

i read it actually, en....i dont know wut u mean, anyways

the major problem for establisng palestan state is the ownership of Jesuslem,

It seems isreal ppl doesn't want to share Jeuselem with Palestan ppl