Can China Allow Korea to Unite Peacefully? - Page 5




 
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October 10th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
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Originally Posted by whosewar2000
Please, please, watch some news, or read some newspaper before you get some points......
Whosewar2000, this is that advice that people are suggesting that you take to heart. If you actually knew anything about the United States, you would know that there is no danger of it splitting or falling appart. If you did a little research from non-biased/non-conspiracy theorist sites or media then you'd already know this.
October 10th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
Alright, everybody back on topic, the next off-topic post in this thread gets the poster an automatic one day ban.
October 10th, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
Quote:
Originally Posted by whosewar2000
Please, please, watch some news, or read some newspaper before you get some points......
Whosewar2000, this is that advice that people are suggesting that you take to heart. If you actually knew anything about the United States, you would know that there is no danger of it splitting or falling appart. If you did a little research from non-biased/non-conspiracy theorist sites or media then you'd already know this.
so, give me website lists I see what you are looking at everyday.

and you think cnn.com or nytimes.com latimes.com, sfgate.com are conspieracy websites? you shall tell them, that is big news for them
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October 10th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
I don't see why China would want to see North Korea still exist.

I mean, when they "won" the Korean war, it's like saying they won a trash can..... full of trash.

What's the reason for keeping it like that? The millions of refugees? A nuclear equiped nut as a neighbor?

A buffer between the US? Well if China is supposed to become a great power, then it shouldn't mind that.
October 10th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
I guess they'd just rather not wrestle with the whole thing with having American troops shaving the border. So yes, they want a buffer zone. just to be safe.

Plus actually North Korea's relations with China isn't all that rosey either. THe North Koreans scrapped the Chinese characters used in South Korea and Japan traditionally because they deemed it "un-Korean."

Who knows what's REALLY going on.
October 10th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
Whosewar2000 has been banned for a repeatedly demonstrated inability to follow the forum rules.
October 10th, 2004  
Big_Z
 
 
China wont allow it.
October 10th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
And my headache's gone! Seriously, I'm willing to put up with a certain degree of nonsense. He overshot the limit.

Back on topic, I don't understand why China needs a buffer zone. I think it is mostly just that China doesn't want the USA to have an influence there. China may see that as their role and their role only. I think China needs to relax a bit. If a united Korea, on the other side of real elections, were to request that the USA maintain a military presence, I don't see a problem with that. I don't think a reunified Korea would as for that anyways.
October 10th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
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Plus actually North Korea's relations with China isn't all that rosey either. THe North Koreans scrapped the Chinese characters used in South Korea and Japan traditionally because they deemed it "un-Korean."

Who knows what's REALLY going on.
NK scrapped the Chinese characters completely I can understand why they did that, after being Chinese tributary for thousands years and being under cruel japanese colony rule for helf century, the Koreans finally wanted their national pride back, so they started to anything which can contribute to their national pride.

But who knows, the N.Koreans someday will have to re-learn their Chinese characters since their entire history is written in Chinese

And I bet this day is coming very soon, look at S.Koreans they are eager to learn Chinese now

A United Korea is no problem for Chinese, anyway in near future they may still become a sort Chinese province again

Also, a united korea with some 70 million men, still needs USA to protect them, I say that is very weak nation, and with large Americans troops stationed in Korea, there will be more crimes commited against Koreans, and that contributed much to the anti-American sentiment in nowadays S.Korea, and in history books of North Korea, they teach N.Korean kids how American troops rape/beat S.Korean people, that's why N.Korean people "hate" Americans and despise S.Koreans to let foreign troops station in their country.
October 10th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
This is why the South Koreans are eager to learn Chinese:
1) They already know the characters and to learn Chinese is a rather small step that can open up business advantages.
2) It's very hard to get into Korean universities and very expensive to go to American Universities. It might be too big of a step for them to go to a European University (culture shock and all) and so China is the next option. It's affordable, pretty competent etc and the language isn't as hard to pick up as the Indo-European languages.

Nothing to do with "awe." The second reason is actually the big one. I know two guys who went to Beijing because they didn't think they were good enough to go to a Korean university.
They weren't big fans of China. Just it was the best way to get their degree. But that alone tells how far China has come. But isn't a real reflection of Korean attitude towards China (though no doubt it'll improve it).

"A United Korea is no problem for Chinese, anyway in near future they may still become a sort Chinese province again "

This is the sort of revisionist history crap that really pisses me off. Korea was never a real "sort of Chinese province." It was a sort of Japanese province, it was a sort of Mongolian province but not a Chinese one. The vassal state agreements were made so that you guys would stop showing up to bother them all the time. Also because historically the scholar class of Korea were spineless, and d less.
There was a lot of power play extortion but never a real take over. But yeah this is why we hate you.

Also on that thing you say the North Koreans teach their kids... do you really take the words of those people to be legitimate?