Bush or Kerry? - Page 2




View Poll Results :vote Bush or Kerry?
Bush 24 63.16%
Kerry 14 36.84%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

 
--
Boots
 
July 1st, 2004  
C/2nd Lt Robot
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle_Sam
...And he isn't very bright man...
Really, how do you explain him getting a C average at Harvard?
Correction on that "And he isn't a very bright man" If your going to criticize someone at least use good grammar.
July 1st, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RnderSafe
Tell me, Uncle_Sam, since you support Kerry - what are his views? Which ones do you favor? Why do you think Kerry would be good for "industry," as you put it?

How do you think he will fare as President, when he hardly ever showed up to vote as a member of congress?

July 1st, 2004  
otterbear2468
 
I would have to say Bush, he has done good this past 4 years, so I think he can do another 4.
--
Boots
July 2nd, 2004  
FutureRANGER
 
 
Quote:
And for the link for my story: Whatch CNN at least 5 hours daily
Did you listen to the demorcratic propaganda minister too?

Kerry's a clown... Yea I know name calling isn't very meaningful. But this guy really is. He contradicts himself all the time. Voted in favor of the war, and now listen to him. Voted in favor of the war, against the 87 billion dollar military funding. Throws his medals away, acts like a war hero. Sheesh.

The economy is improving by the way. Usually, the economy follows a pattern, after recession comes prosperity, and over and over again.

I feel safer with Bush as president. You know what I like about him? When he makes a decision, he sticks to it and refuses to be intimidated, and then follows through on his word. Granted, taking finger nail clippers away from Grandma isn't the best way to go, but I feel safer for a number of reasons. Since 9/11, the US has removed two oppressive regimes that harbored and supported the terrorist and there acts, and drove them to the hills. If I was a terrorist I would much rather have Kerry president.

Kerry is for more restrictive gun control than Bush. That isn't good.

Bush is a Republican, therefore supports more of the issues I believe in.

My 2 cents.
July 3rd, 2004  
Uncle_Sam
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RnderSafe
Tell me, Uncle_Sam, since you support Kerry - what are his views? Which ones do you favour? Why do you think Kerry would be good for "industry," as you put it?

How do you think he will fare as President, when he hardly ever showed up to vote as a member of congress?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Damien, it is not just CNN. All of the elite media stooges cover the war as they see fit - and they enjoy covering it with a negative spin. Reporters are doing shady things over there, and some of those things have gotten men killed - all so they could have a few mins of "action" on camera.
I do not support either of them, they both, in my opinion, are not up for that job.
I support F. D. Roosvelt!
September 18th, 2004  
Red_Army
 
 
I hate George W. Bush. His tax cuts are not helping the country. He is losing the war on terror, and he focuses too much on Iraq. For those who think George W. Bush is a good President, are you aware that he lost over 7 million jobs and regained only 6 million. Now, Bush is taking credit for the new jobs and say the ecomomy is booming. Yeah right!

As for John Kerry. His plans could get the US back on the right track. He promise to decrease American troops in Iraq, restore relationships with countries Bush alienated. Bring back jobs that went overseas during the reign of Bush, and reform medicare.
September 18th, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Army
As for John Kerry. His plans could get the US back on the right track. He promise to decrease American troops in Iraq, restore relationships with countries Bush alienated. Bring back jobs that went overseas during the reign of Bush, and reform medicare.
Yes, and what do you think Kerry will say in 3 months when public opinion starts turning against rebuilding the "broken" alliance with other nations. I have yet to see Kerry make a stand, he always says what Bush did wrong and what he would have done even though he usually supported Bush, Iraq for example, that was of course if Kerry voted. As president one must be able to make a choice and stick with it, he must be willing to put is ass on the line, I just don't see Kerry doing that. And Kerry's plans call for sending more troops to Iraq, some theory that sending more troops right now will allow us to get out of Iraq sooner, I wonder if he realises we will have troops in Iraq even after his second term is over, that is assuming he wins in November.
September 20th, 2004  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
Definately Bush. Yes I do have a few problems with Bush, but I shutter to think about Kerry getting elected. With Bush, you know exactly what he stands for. He is pretty concrete on most issues.

Kerry is something else. I cannot lay a finger on what exactly he stands for. Most of his campaign is based on general statements that offer no clear answer. Also, why is Kerry not talking about his voting record as a senator? He's been doing it for the last 20 years.

Lastly, has anyone heard Shawn Hanity interview Kerry supporters and ask them to name one issue stands for or one thing kerry's voted for in the senate. He did that a bunch of times on his radio show during the Republican Convention. The answers he got made me laugh my arse off. Basically people are voting for kerry because he's not Bush. Anywhere from 20-45% (depending on which poll you believe) of his support comes from those kind of people.

-------------------------------------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Army
For those who think George W. Bush is a good President, are you aware that he lost over 7 million jobs and regained only 6 million. Now, Bush is taking credit for the new jobs and say the ecomomy is booming. Yeah right!
Red_Army, I do not know where you get your news from, but your figures are WAY off. The actual numbers are between 1.8 and 2.2 million. Here's my news sources. Show me yours!!!!

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...d=aWCV_lbJDG9M
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...004-issues.htm

As for the economy being a mess when Bush took over. Read this from a post of mine:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doody
as the economy goes, it started to tank under clinton

"Whether the US economy is plunging into a recession is the $64 million question of the day. Preliminary data for the December quarter suggests that US gross domestic product was growing at an annual rate of only 1.4% at the end of 2000, after slowing from 8.3% in the 1999 fourth quarter to 4.8%, 5.6% and 2.2% in each of the subsequent quarters.

Fears that the US economy was not headed into a period of slower growth what official economists call a ``soft landing'' but into a recession only really began to grip the capitalist class at the beginning of this year."

Bush took command in 2001 to an economy that was already on its way down. The bad thing for Bush is that the negative numbers finally came in under Bush's watch.

Check the numbers before saying Bush lead this country into a recession. Otherwise, you are making an empty claim
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2001/436/436p17.htm
http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups...NPAN004979.pdf

I find it funny that I support my claims with non biased (I try to weed out the biased ones) sources while the claims of many Kerry supporters do not. News from moveon.org and kerryforpres.com do not count.

I am sick of the empty claims!!!!!
September 20th, 2004  
Red_Army
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doody
Definately Bush. Yes I do have a few problems with Bush, but I shutter to think about Kerry getting elected. With Bush, you know exactly what he stands for. He is pretty concrete on most issues.

Kerry is something else. I cannot lay a finger on what exactly he stands for. Most of his campaign is based on general statements that offer no clear answer. Also, why is Kerry not talking about his voting record as a senator? He's been doing it for the last 20 years.

Lastly, has anyone heard Shawn Hanity interview Kerry supporters and ask them to name one issue stands for or one thing kerry's voted for in the senate. He did that a bunch of times on his radio show during the Republican Convention. The answers he got made me laugh my arse off. Basically people are voting for kerry because he's not Bush. Anywhere from 20-45% (depending on which poll you believe) of his support comes from those kind of people.

-------------------------------------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Army
For those who think George W. Bush is a good President, are you aware that he lost over 7 million jobs and regained only 6 million. Now, Bush is taking credit for the new jobs and say the ecomomy is booming. Yeah right!
Red_Army, I do not know where you get your news from, but your figures are WAY off. The actual numbers are between 1.8 and 2.2 million. Here's my news sources. Show me yours!!!!

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...d=aWCV_lbJDG9M
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...004-issues.htm

As for the economy being a mess when Bush took over. Read this from a post of mine:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doody
as the economy goes, it started to tank under clinton

"Whether the US economy is plunging into a recession is the $64 million question of the day. Preliminary data for the December quarter suggests that US gross domestic product was growing at an annual rate of only 1.4% at the end of 2000, after slowing from 8.3% in the 1999 fourth quarter to 4.8%, 5.6% and 2.2% in each of the subsequent quarters.

Fears that the US economy was not headed into a period of slower growth — what official economists call a ``soft landing'' — but into a recession only really began to grip the capitalist class at the beginning of this year."

Bush took command in 2001 to an economy that was already on its way down. The bad thing for Bush is that the negative numbers finally came in under Bush's watch.

Check the numbers before saying Bush lead this country into a recession. Otherwise, you are making an empty claim
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2001/436/436p17.htm
http://www.econedlink.org/lessons/in...m?lesson=EM225
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2001/436/436p17.htm

I find it funny that I support my claims with non biased (I try to weed out the biased ones) sources while the claims of many Kerry supporters do not. News from moveon.org and kerryforpres.com do not count.

I am sick of the empty claims!!!!!
You think Bush is so great. Well here are my headlines.

"Only George W. Bush could celebrate over a record budget deficit of $422 billion, a loss of 1.6 million jobs and Medicare premiums that are up by a record 17 percent,"Kerry said. "W stands for wrong -- the wrong direction for America."
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLIT....ap/index.html

"He himself now admits he miscalculated in Iraq. But in truth, his miscalculation was ignoring the very best advice of America's own military," Kerry said, speaking from the Cincinnati Museum Center -- the same venue at which Bush made his case for going to war in October 2002.

"Here in Cincinnati, he promised to lead a strong coalition, but he failed to build the kind of broad, strong, real coalition, and he rushed to war without a plan to win the peace," Kerry said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLIT...wed/index.html
September 20th, 2004  
Delta210
 
Quoting Kerry doesn't prove your point Red Army. I can find Kerry espousing the opposite view of anything you post him saying, since he takes both sides of every issue. I can't wait for the debates, so I can watch Kerry debate himself.