Bush did the right thing by going into Iraq. - Page 5




 
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September 20th, 2004  
Airborne Eagle
 
 
All presidents have OPLANs for different strategic contingencies.

So, of course there was a plan to hit Iraq. It's not as if we didn't spend the last ten years directly (Gulf War I) and indirectly (No Fly Zone) engage Iraq.

The closest folks come to bringing this idea to reality is a think tank many adminstration staff belonged to prior to the election. In that think tank, they "game-planned" numerous situations. I'd chalk that up to folks of power debating national topics in public forums. Hardly the back-room conspiracy method.
September 20th, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
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Originally Posted by Chocobo_Blitzer
WMD turned out to be a bust so far, and probably will remain so forever.
I have talked to some marines who were over in Iraq, they claim their company found stockpiles of Chemical and Biological weapons while in Iraq but it has all been classified. And the media does not mention it when we do find WMD's because they have more to gain by attacking Bush's policies about Iraq, but some articles can be found on the internet. I am not going to take the time to get the link for you but I am sure you can find them if you try just a little, the one I remember the most is the article about some Polish Soldiers buying 50 Sarin fillled mortar shells off the black market to prevent terrorists from getting a hold of them, two reasons why I remember that one, 1. Because I do not approve of their tactics off attaining the shells, 2. Investigators linked the other bidder to Osama Bin Laden.
September 21st, 2004  
Stafford911
 
 
How can you even compare Iraq to Nazi Germany. Did Sadam nearly whipe out an enitre race of people and get millions of others killed in only a few years? I cant remember the guys name but he was in Bush's cabinet or somthing and bush fired him. He wrote a book that came out like two months ago or somthing. BAre with me I have bad memory. And did anyone else laugh their ass off when Donnie Rumsfeld in his speech last week when he kept calling Osama Sadam?
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September 21st, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
It was a vague comparison, nobody really thinks they're in any way equal. And no I wasn't laughing at Donald, it was just embarrassing. I can see why he shys away from cameras now, he just does more harm than good.
September 22nd, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
Of course Nazi Germany and Iraq are not equal, but they were doing the same things on different scales. Germany was comitting Genocide against the Jews, for Saddam it was agaisnt the Kurds.
September 25th, 2004  
Courtenay
 
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Originally Posted by aussiejohn
Bad decision. Poorly planned. The American public will get tired of this fiasco. Honestly, do you really think you can win the peace in Iraq. Afghanistan is not looking to good these days either but I guess you don't want to talk about that one.
Could you elaborate as to why you think it was a bad decision? Poorly planned...maybe, I can give you that. Maybe not as much poorly planned as not thought through to the nth degree as it should have been. All of this insurgency certainly was not taken into consideration IMO.

But, I also feel that stability in the Middle East is an absolute must. Hussein's government was unquestionably problematic. The people and thier way of thinking will continue to be problematic unless we stay the course.

Unfortunately, America is very easily divided. And those who oppose us know this. The only mistake I see in taking this on, was not making sure that our country was ready to support it. But the thing is, this country sways in public opinion more often than some folks change underwear....so how can you ever know!

Bottom line for me, it needed to happen. It has happened. Now we have to deal with it and see it through.
September 25th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
It needed to happen, Iraq would have only changed through military force. But the question is, when? It happened in 03', and historians will forever debate the timing.
September 25th, 2004  
venom928
 
I think the decision to go into Iraq at this time was a bad one. Iraq was not an immediate threat to the US. We waited this long to get rid of him we could have waited a little longer. If anything it has hurt us in the war against terror for every one terrorist we kill in iraq there are 2 more to take his place the war in Iraq is probably the greatest recruitment tool these terrorist organizations have ever had. We can't win this war with guns we can only win by changing the way people think.
September 25th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
But truthly, are they recruiting terrorist or shi'ite/sunni radicals? What i'm asking is, aren't those guys really deadset on takeing over Iraq, rather than hurting America? I know if Iraq falls to one of them it will become a terrorist haven, but will it be the sunni/shi'ite factions directly, the ones that are getting these recruits?
September 25th, 2004  
venom928
 
I doubt it will be one of those faction because i'm sure the vast majority of them just want peace at this point i think if anyone is trying to take over its Radicals like Al-Suddar (not sure if got the spelling on his name right)