bayonet improvement idea - Page 5




 
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March 12th, 2004  
diplomatic_means
 
If soldiers want versatile then they should carry a multi tool. Those have knives. The bayonet is such a far more effective stabbing tool that we should use those instead of strapping knives to our barrels.
March 12th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by diplomatic_means
strapping knives to our barrels.
That's what a bayonet is, kind of the definition of a bayonet, actually.

I honestly do not understand your reasoning behind wanting these old bayonets coming back. Is there any reason beyond that they look mean?
March 12th, 2004  
diplomatic_means
 
A triangular wound is much more potent and takes much longer to heal than a line shaped stab. It is harder for scar tissue to form around a triangular wound and because the triangular bayonets have more surface area entering the body they to more damage internally. Triangular bayonets are the only bayonets worth using in such a purpose.
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March 12th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
And you're going to be a pastor?

Anyway, when an American serviceman uses his bayonet, he is either going to kill or wound and subsequently capture the enemy as a rule, so all the triangular wound would accomplish would be to give our docs more work and to make us look like savages. The United States military is not in the business of torture.
March 12th, 2004  
diplomatic_means
 
THank you Redneck for finally giving me a logical explanation as to why we don't use them. Just for reference my youth pastor told me all this about the bayonet because I was pretty much the only youth and he was a logistics guy for the army in the Persian Gulf War and Desert Storm. You'd also be hard pressed to find bigger supporters of our armed forces than pastors. 8)
March 12th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
My comment was relating to you wanting to be a pastor but being gung-ho for nastier weaponry at the same time.
March 12th, 2004  
diplomatic_means
 
So what's your connection? God uses nations to punish others and usually did it in more brutal ways than we do now. I'm just trying to encourage sacrifice. As goes my view on current warfare the benefit to switching to the triangular bayonet would help emphasize the human sacrifice void that is constantly trying to be taken out of war.
March 12th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
Alright, that's a sore spot with me. Are you yourself even planning on making this sacrifice? If not, you are entirely unjustified "encouraging" others to make the sacrifice that you are not willing to make, just to fulfill some random theory.
March 12th, 2004  
FutureRANGER
 
 
Erm you might have a point there. You can think of it as us (the US) being the tool which God uses. But you can't take it too far and use God as a scapegoat.

Of course I am not saying that we do that, and we have never done that.

But I think you have a point as God using us to clean-up to world (ousting Saddam and Vietnam ect.)

I tend to agree with your views Diplomatic Means, even if they are controversial and perhaps stretching it and reshaping and bending what it means to be Christian.

God put us on this earth with a purpose. I see the purpose of the United States to rid the world of people like Saddam.

Full Steam Ahead, I'm with you man.
March 12th, 2004  
diplomatic_means
 
Redneck stop talking to me about sacrifice. I know what sacrifice is. The Chrisitian religion is the most heavily persecuted religion in the world. I bet you didn't know that 175,000 people die every year because they claim Christ as their only hope. I know what sacrifice is I've read stories much more gruesome about torture Christians have endured and died by that are much more graphic than all the ways soldiers die in the field put together.