You've given me no facts... I haven't seen any links to anything factual in your posts. I see a bunch of biased information. I can find statistics just the same as you can that prove YOU completely wrong... In fact, I HAVE posted links to factual information. You only think you've proven me wrong because, like most conservatives and pro-gun advocates, you only see what you want to see..
Biased information? by who's opinion? yours? That doesn't carry any weight whatsoever. I've given you plenty of proof and facts yet you ignore it. Why would I waste my time giving you more and more facts when you ignore them?
Now I'm a conservative lol, but yes I AM a pro gun advocate. At least you got that bit right. Only see what I want to see? I see plenty of evidence just about every day. You should try talking to rape and attack victims or talk to the families of murder victims like I have. Not that it concerns you, two weeks ago I was a state witness regarding a double murder. I wont go into the facts of the case as its still ongoing. However, what I can say is, a beautiful young girl of 18 years was murdered along with her boyfriend in cold blood. Both victims were unarmed and defenceless.
Stick to the f*cking topic. I'm tired of your talking down on me because YOU can't come up with enough of a debate to compete with me. Talk to me and debate with me, or ignore me, because I will not be called stupid. .
TUT TUT, watch the language, ladies and children read this forum.
I'll debate with anyone with an ounce of knowledge on the subject, you haven't. As for talking down to you, I don't give a toss what your tired of. Compete with you? lol why would I even want to compete with anyone who is as blinkered, conceited and arrogant as you are. lol You wont be called stupid? Then stop making stupid statements on a subject that you don't have a clue about.
I wasn't sniffing at it. I was saying it quite capable of disabling an attacker! That's the point! You don't need a 12 bore shotgun walking around the streets of Manhattan to protect yourself from some punk trying to mug you!
As for your splitting hairs on gun types... I can't say anything..
I didn't say you was sniffing at the 38 Special, I was adding a comment that a 38 Special is not to be sniffed at, yet once again a 38 Special is not going to put anyone down with one round if they are high on drugs. I've known criminals hit with multi rounds of 357 magnum who haven't gone down.
I wouldn't know what I'd need walking around the streets of Manhattan, I've never been there.
Punk? You've been watching too many Dirty Harry movies.
Neither do I split hairs regarding firearm types, makes and caliber's, I was giving you some examples, which was obviously a waste of my time and energy.
I consider taking weapons safety courses, regularly training with your firearm, educating yourself about it, and maintaining that education to be sufficiently trained. Taking one course to get the license and never going back is NOT "trained" with a firearm..
Gasp, a bit of sense at last. I bet it wont last
And you never eluded to the fact that the criminal was high on a drug known to lessen the effects of physical damage..
You made a statement, and as I said, I proved you wrong.
A slug makes any shotgun much more effective, provided you can actually control it enough to put it where you want it to... Now, take that same principal and apply it to a shell full of shot, and your chances of hitting something 100 yards away decrease, significantly. .
Again, I proved you wrong, now your trying to claw back some credibility.
I've claimed nothing of the sort... Show me the post where I said ANYTHING of that nature. Show me the source that proves me wrong, because again, all I've read is reviews of a book that say nothing factual about the contents of the book.
Hardly... My knowledge comes from educating myself on the issues of the day. Interestingly enough, God complexes are one subject that fascinates me ENDLESSLY.
I was right, the common sense didn't last.
You are forever spouting your all knowing idea's and opinions, yet when it comes down to it, you know bugger all about the subject. if you want to know about the book I mentioned, then get a copy and read it. You wont read it, because your too lazy, too cocky and big headed and have made your own mind up about the book being biased DESPITE the fact you've never read it.
Educating yourself? And where do you get this all consuming knowledge? If you like educating yourself as you say you do, get a copy of John Lotts book and study it CAREFULLY.
lol where did God come into it? lol
I REALLY suggest that you stick to watching cartoons, action movies, playing computer games and playing with GI Joe, because you don't have a clue about the real world. When you get a lot more life experience, then come back and talk to me.