I Already Know How I'm Voting Next Year

Whispering Death

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This is all very simple to me. When I vote I care pretty much only about the things that are directly affecting me such as Terrorism, National Security and such. Not amorphous ideas like stem cell research, gay rights/not-rights, abortion, etc.

So when I see my government spending 6 months arguing about court apointments and my gas is about to cost $3 a gallon I come up with my own personal solution.

It's all very simple, when I got to the ballot box I'm going to see which person is the incumbent. Then I vote for the person who isn't currently in office so maybe if everyone old is kicked out the new guys might get something done about my G*** Damned gas prices!

I encourage everyone to follow my plan of action.
 
Yeah,

Good idea, vote for Kerry, Hilary, or [whoever]. After they take away your 2nd Amendment rights, your first Amendments rights by making "hate crime laws" (that probably don't apply to PROTECTING YOU), and make our nation socialist instead of individually driven you'll maybe learn.

GAS prices are a market effect on other nations growing and needing energy. The market REACTION is alternative energy sources. That takes time.

The court appointment thing is an application of duplicitous standards by Liberals. Ruth Bader Ginsberg (?sp) REFUSED to answer questions (which Liberals applauded her for her refusing a litmus test) and now the current nominee is taking her tack, but geeee, those same liberals don't want a CONSERVATIVE to have the same option.

No, see, Liberals knew they couldn't get their agendas through legislation, and that's why they wanted activist judges to legislate from the bench, to repeal laws voters got onto ballots through petition drives (ya know, democracy in action), and make up, from whole cloth new "laws" that only applied in "certain situations" (PCism).

Learn about politics before opening the pie hole mounted in your grape.

Steven
 
Well I am going to be supporting the Democrats not because I love them, but for these two reasons.

1. I am against one party rule in general, but espically because we have extremist radicals (I won't call them conservative any more, because that about the last thing they are). Our constitution was designed for Checks and Balances, that is missing.

2. I think the fragile state of our economy is far more dangerous to this nation than anything al-Qaida could think up. All this current bunch can say is "tax-cut". Its time for serious (and yes painful) decisions to be made. The left has always been better on economic matters than the right.
 
Uggh I don't know how i'll vote. I'm inclined to go republican because Hilary just.... reaaaallly doesn't do it for me. But who knows...
 
The presidental election isn't until 08 you know.

06 is just mid-terms where I get to toss out all the lazy congressmen who care more about partisan High-School drama than my G*** D*** gas prices!
 
No kiddin. I drive a Grand Cherokee, so as far as gas goes, I am now looking for a second job to go with full-time student and DJ.

Elections: I dunno. It seems like every large scale politician is really only concerned with reelection. They dont really give a hoot about how you feel, what you care for or what. They will say anything they can just to get your vote.

Term Limits is a great book that deals with this topic.
 
Spartacus said:
No kiddin. I drive a Grand Cherokee, so as far as gas goes, I am now looking for a second job to go with full-time student and DJ.

Elections: I dunno. It seems like every large scale politician is really only concerned with reelection. They dont really give a hoot about how you feel, what you care for or what. They will say anything they can just to get your vote.

Term Limits is a great book that deals with this topic.

That is why either they care about gas prices or they go, I think that's a fair way to do it.

And I've heard some people say "well there isn't anything they can do" Really? That what you really think? Because our ENTIRE foreign policy revolves around oil. Our ENTIRE foreign policy revoles around oil. You fail there and you've essentially just squandered all the billions the state department spends.

I know I'm being a tad dramatic to prove a point, but my point still stands. My safety is #1 and my pocketbook is #2. I feel safe so long as Bush as CiC so guess how I'm voting come mid-terms.
 
Whispering Death said:
Spartacus said:
No kiddin. I drive a Grand Cherokee, so as far as gas goes, I am now looking for a second job to go with full-time student and DJ.

Elections: I dunno. It seems like every large scale politician is really only concerned with reelection. They dont really give a hoot about how you feel, what you care for or what. They will say anything they can just to get your vote.

Term Limits is a great book that deals with this topic.

That is why either they care about gas prices or they go, I think that's a fair way to do it.

And I've heard some people say "well there isn't anything they can do" Really? That what you really think? Because our ENTIRE foreign policy revolves around oil. Our ENTIRE foreign policy revoles around oil. You fail there and you've essentially just squandered all the billions the state department spends.

I know I'm being a tad dramatic to prove a point, but my point still stands. My safety is #1 and my pocketbook is #2. I feel safe so long as Bush as CiC so guess how I'm voting come mid-terms.

I agree, in theory; either they care about the problem, or they arent reelected. The problem is this; they can say anything they want when it comes election time. People look at their stances on issues and say 'Wow he cares for the same thing I do' and vote for them. After they are in office, it doesnt matter what they do. We as a people are too ignorant and obsorbed in our own lives to double check what exactly those people are doing with the power we gave them. Example; Kerry said that he was comitted to national defense despite the fact that he had voted against many bills that better enabled (either through money, equipment, etc.) those very people he claimed to support to do their jobs.

This kind of say one thing and do another is the very thing I am talking about. And I dont think it is isolated on one side or the other, all are equally guilty.

What are you talking about as far as foreign policy? Yeah, our foreign policy dictates how we deal with other nations; diplomaticly, militarily, and economically. But it is not like there are really any changes that can be made. (If there were, wouldnt they have been made already??) Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean, but I dont think there really is anything that can be done as far as foreign stuff. (Save for conserving, and working to restore refineries, etc.)

I agree, I do feel safer with Bush as CiC. Whose gonna be on the ballot next election? Hopefully, one much like him.
 
There isn't much that CAN be doen about gas prices.

Allow me to explain?

Our refineries are already working at 98% capacity (the most they can w/safety guidelines) and the Dems have VETOED every energy bill G.W. has sent to the Congress.

We have no more refining capacity, AND if we import GASOLINE, HOO-BABY are the prices gonna shoot up.

Alternative fuels? Like hydrogen plants (or cars)? Nope, net LOSS in energy. See, the plants require the separation of the hydrogen from the oxygen in H2O/water, and that uses MORE electricity than it gains you.

Tidal, Solar, Nuclear, and Wind should be instituted to the max. But gasoline is only like 40% of the use we use crude oil for. And more coal plants isn't a great option (not to mention economical - the new plants burn very clean but are EXPENSIVE - and coal is limited too).

Hope that helped.

Steven
 
LSBeene said:
Tidal, Solar, Nuclear, and Wind should be instituted to the max. But gasoline is only like 40% of the use we use crude oil for. And more coal plants isn't a great option (not to mention economical - the new plants burn very clean but are EXPENSIVE - and coal is limited too).
I've heard that the USA has enough coal reserves to last 120 years. Am I mistaken?
 
tomtom22 said:
LSBeene said:
Tidal, Solar, Nuclear, and Wind should be instituted to the max. But gasoline is only like 40% of the use we use crude oil for. And more coal plants isn't a great option (not to mention economical - the new plants burn very clean but are EXPENSIVE - and coal is limited too).
I've heard that the USA has enough coal reserves to last 120 years. Am I mistaken?

Hmmm. Do we really want to start burning coal left and right? Sounds messy and polluting. Besides, those estimates were probably made several years ago, at the rate at whichc they were used then. There probably has been an increase the demands since then, lowering the length of time they would hold.

Although, a deiversification of energy sources sounds like a feasible short-term solutution.
 
:lol: The funny thing is that Americans complain about gas price skyrocketing. I remember it was like 2,25 $ per gallon when I was in CA.
1 US gallon = 3,78 liters It means you guys pay 0,59 cent per liter.

Well, I pay 1,50 $ per liter :lol: :lol: (better stop laughing :shock: :cry: )
 
Ya'll should just start riding motorcycles. I average 49 MPG on mine, and I can out-accelerate Corvettes. ;)

Seriously, the fuel price isn't something that will be changed even by voting in a completely new government at all levels. It is a world-wide phenomena tha requires an alternative fuel solution, not a new government.
 
I don't think there is anything that can be doen about gas prices.

Its about supply and demand. China energy needs, among other things is what driving it up.

No matter who is in office is not going to change it.
 
i think having a Grand Jeep Cherokee is a stupid choice for me, but it makes me feel better to see those miserable people driving Hummer.
 
WARmachine88 said:
i think having a Grand Jeep Cherokee is a stupid choice for me, but it makes me feel better to see those miserable people driving Hummer.

Please Clarify this comment
 
I have to pay at least 90$ now to fill up my Jeep, but I will take it and get used to it because I dont like a small car.

most of people have this attitude i think. Oil price looks so bad only because we look at the oil price 1 month ago.

let's just get used to it cuz some economists say oil price can be even higher.
 
The fact that the gas prices went up after hurricane Katrina is what erks me. If it only went up enough to cover the transport costs then I could see that. But it went up a crapload. I have heard (no idea if it is true) of some people in the bigger cities paying upwards of $4 a gallon (USD). The prices continue to rise. I would think it is called price gouging.

Taking advantage of a bad situation, not the whole supply and demand scenario. Put a cap on gas prices and I would be happy. Even if they cap it where it is now would be fine. Just put a stop to how much farther they can raise the prices.
 
It is just that the demand of oil from new rising power like India and China are too great and the capability of rising production is too low.

We have to get used to the price like this. In short time, there is no chance that the price will fall back to the one like we used to have 2 years ago.
 
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