I have to ask another question of this issue.....

What do you all think of the morning after pill??

The morning after pill, keep in mind, does not abort a baby once a baby is conceived... Rather, what it does, is prevent a pregnancy in the case of unprotected sex. And you have to get a prescription for it in order to take it, and you must take it withing 72 hours.....

What do you all think of this??

I myself have taken the morning after pill only once. I won't go into the circumstances, but I am glad it was available..... It is not something I would use all the time, however....... Birth Control (during sex) is what I choose.

What is so complicated about the "seperation of church and state"?

It's a theological view, therefore it has no place in law.

My religious beliefs are very important to me, but I would sooner die then see them legislated on people.

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Originally Posted by Sgt. Nick Fury

It's a theological view, therefore it has no place in law.

Guess what?? The laws of this country were based on theology (at least western religion)

Where do you think "No murder" and other such laws come from???

As for the opinion that some people have that abortions should be illegal, if that were to happen, we'd go back to the time when women were sticking knitting needles inside themselves to try and abort the baby on their own. You'd probably have alot more deaths that way, because the mother would die then too. Women will continue to get abortions whether they are legal or not. Only when they are illegal, the woman usually dies also.

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Abortion is definitely wrong. If you don't want a baby, don't go on a friggin screwfest!
... and now that I've read on the thing, just hope to God that a baby doesn't come out of it. And try to find the sonofabitch who fathered it and make him take care of his child.

Originally Posted by ItalianGuy4US

I also realized that... like, when I hear people saying abortion makes it easy for women to light-heartedly do such a thing ( and it is a bad thing ) , well I say if a woman does such a thing light-heartedly, then she'd better do it. She would be a bad mother, most likely.

My point exactly.

Originally Posted by ItalianGuy4US

I'm sorry if I've been someway boring, I just thought I could bring out my personal experience for the benefit of the conversation.

Not at all, thanks for sharing.

All I can do is look at the first original question: Is abortion murder?

http://resurgence.home.att.net/L-abortion.htm

this is one essay written to support the idea that abortion is not murder. I will warn some that view this link: the essay is written and viewed entirely on the legal aspects of murder. You might not like the example used to define legal.

the main summary states: Murder is defined as "illegal killing with malice aforethought." Abortion fails this definition for two reasons. First, abortion is not illegal, and second, there is no evidence to suggest that expecting mothers feel malice towards their own flesh and blood.

I personally don't see abortion as murder. What i personally do see abortion as is a tool: just another way out of a situation not wanted.

Fortunately for my peace of mind, the tools i've chosen in my situations have never involved abortion.

What "unpleasant effect" are you talking about

anomalies on child..........not really often but can happen

Originally Posted by Marksman

anomalies on child..........not really often but can happen

Do you mean to say that the chances of an anomaly are greater if the child was conceived with help of a sperm lab? I didn't know about that. Do you have a source for that?

Originally Posted by Mark Conley

All I can do is look at the first original question: Is abortion murder?

http://resurgence.home.att.net/L-abortion.htm

this is one essay written to support the idea that abortion is not murder. I will warn some that view this link: the essay is written and viewed entirely on the legal aspects of murder. You might not like the example used to define legal.

I think this is a good essay on the subject, and I can't find arguments against it for now. I do see why you warn us about the example, but I think it's a good one and the author was very careful not to say anything offending.

Originally Posted by Mark Conley

Fortunately for my peace of mind, the tools i've chosen in my situations have never involved abortion.

I think "fortunately" is the correct word, and that kind off proves that people that think abortion is not murder, don't go around and use that method as single way of birth control.