9/11 2010

[QUOTE=LeMask;587160]Racial profiling isnt a solution, but it would be a source of problems.

And let's be honest. We dont want to live in a world where people have to chose a religion to be put on their papers. "


I have lived in a world where ones religion is not only put on your papers but some religions are not even allowed to enter. You also have less legal rights in those countries unless you are a muslim.

Why is it that the molly coddlers of this world are so quick to jump to the defense of muslims and are also the ones who try to remove christianity and judea from every aspect of American public life?
 
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I dont see the point...

What? you have been racially profiled while you were in these "Muslim countries"?

Is that your argument?

If you get attacked by idiots with Machetes in an African country, does it mean that you have to attack the people from this country with machetes when they come to your own country?

I say that rich countries have to show the way. Let the poor get corrupted, they are weak. But the strong have to stay strong and they have to show the way for those who had less luck...


No, when I was attacked with machetes and AK47s in Africa I returned fire with an M4 and an M9.
I felt very sorry for the innocent villagers who didnt have anthing but rocks to defend themselves with.

And dont worry, America won't be a "rich" country much longer. The forces of evil and political correctness have finally conquered her.
 
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Because you are a confused person, and that you dont have the knowledge to see the world as it is...

Muslim countries have a LOT of problems. Serious ones. They dont understand their own religion, they have backward cultures we would compare easily with what we had in medieval times... etc...

There was some historical events that troubled their evolution... Wars, lack of ressources, colonisations, conflicts and today's capitalist/imperialist agenda... etc...

If you had problems in a country like Saudi Arabia or any oil rich Muslim country, just look at your own people, as the people living there arent really responsible for this ****...

If you want to know why I say that, know that the Saudis ruling Saudi Arabia are rich and powerful because of Western support. They are rich, because you and your buddies like cheap oil to build an industry and keep the rest of the world buying your products rather than building their own...

The good honest Muslims are NOT in power. But the scum of these countries is in power. And the Western world is very happy about this situation. It's good for business.

So here you have it. This is why I defend Muslims. The few I've known are civilized people. I've visited some Muslim countries, and I've never had problems I couldnt trace to lack of education or a Western influence somehow...

And sorry if I cant be more accurate, but it"'s a huge topic we are discussing here...

But you should stop wanking it to the US flag and start to care about justice. Real justice. Laws that are good for the whole mankind and not just you.

And read about your own history buddy.

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Eh dude, a part of America have to fall so the right of the world can rise. It's only justice. Dont build empires on the heads of other people.

If you build your wealth using the labor of slaves... Dont get angry when the slaves leave. You lost nothing, you just steal less...
 
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:biggun:Jeez LeMask, I didnt realize I was talking to a real sanctimonious patronizing cretin.
Otherwise I would have written slower or in arabic.
"And read about your own history buddy."
Thats rich humor but I don't think we are buddies especially after you refered to me as a ******.
OK go ahead and make your last jab because we are done here.

"I never argue with idiots, its too hard for bystanders to tell who is who."
 
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Didnt call you anything... I just say that you forgive everything as long as it's good for your country or worse, your "race" as you define it... White man or Judeo-Christian culture...

But you worship America and pretend to be Christians after that... God bless America indeed...

How many gods do you have?
 
Absolutely No Profiling!
Pause a moment, reflect back,
and take the following multiple choice test.
These events are actual events from history. They really happened!
Do you remember?

HERE'S THE TEST
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and
massacred by:
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon
by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year
old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his
wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davey Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy
diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's
women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as
missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining
two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and
crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and
40

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics
intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be
allowed to profile certain people.. They must conduct random searches
of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper
identification, secret agents who are members of the President's
security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal
of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim
Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of
profiling.

FOOT NOTE: Fort Hood Texas, another Muslim 39 years old killed 13
people and wounded 30 some odd others. Does this fit the profile?
NOW OUR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF IS TELLING US THAT THE YOUNG MUSLIM THAT
ATTEMPTED TO BLOW UP A NORTHWEST/DELTA JET AS IT APPROACHED DETROIT
ON CHRISTMAS DAY WAS, "AN ISOLATED INCIDENT." YOU HAVE GOT TO BE
KIDDING! MY FATHER USED TO SAY, "DON'T sPIT IN MY FACE AND TELL ME
IT'S RAINING."


Nice questionnaire, I can do one similar that reflects badly on white male christians, also on law abiding chinese - where are you going with this? There are lies, damned lies and statistics - you appear to ticking off in all 3boxes, where's the back up and where is the justification?
 
I must admit 9/11 is probably the worst terrorist attack ever to happen. It was far worse than 7/7. I think Britain got lucky with it. But one quote, by a comedian I admit, about 9/11 and 7/7 reactions was this:
'After 9/11 America went into a state of terror emergency and even now you still have terror reports on your TV. But after 7/7 the next day people were complaining that the tube and buses were late'.

The more I think of it the more I realise that us British really don't want to dwell on 7/7 and we just want to move on. In fact 7/7 has not been mentioned pretty much since then (except at memorial services) until now when the inquest has started. This really shows a big difference between the Brits and Americans for me. But you guys may disagree.
 
As a christian male and having spent the last ten years in various muslim countries I am an expert on what it is like to be racially profiled.
Ah,so, you are a "christian"?... that would explain a lot.

I wouldn't go around pointing fingers at anyone.
 
As a christian male and having spent the last ten years in various muslim countries I am an expert on what it is like to be racially profiled.
You miss the point of my post. It is time for the PC bull to end that your kind
keep harping about if America is to survive. Unless the social nanny state is dismantled there many be
another Uncivil War.
I would encourage you to read "Rules for Radical Conservatives"
by David Kahane

I was wondering as a "Christian Male" if you spent any time in Lebanon, Northern Ireland, or Kosovo to see your fellow radical Christians in action?

My father in law (a very devout Catholic) saw combat in Lebanon and he could tell you first hand how "peaceful" Christian groups like the Lebanese Front were. Read up the Tel al-Zadaar massacre where Christians massacred 1500-3000 Palestinian civilians.

Senojekips is absolutely right, "Christians" are in no position to lecture anybody about anything.
 
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As a Christian I would thank the both of you to shut it. You have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't commit any of those things and I'm not responsible for other people's actions.
 
Okay, this thread has strayed far away from the topic now.

Stay on topic, or start a new thread.
This is the first and final warning about this.

Thanks.
 
Well, terrorism and extremism in general is harming everybody, it's not a thing invented by Muslims.

It's in fact in the set of tools for world domination and warfare in general.

Every community have its extremists, criminals etc... Since we invented the concept of enemy, fear was a factor.

Now, I dont think that the 9/11 was so special... How is it more horrible than a suicide bomber in a night club?
Maybe the scale... Or the consequences...

And maybe that the American are more sensitive to terrorist actions... But if the 9/11 attacks made so much noise all over the world, it's because there was a military and political interests in using this event to act and gain power.

And the Americans, as a people, thought naively that they were safe at home and that they didnt had to care about what's happening in the world...

Well, big mistake, not since we live in an all connected world.
 
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