Worst Fighter Aircraft
The F-4 phantom was ahead of its time really for a fighter aircraft and thats a large reason why it is not one of the most liked.
It was missile-only from the get-go when the world of aviation combat was still in the machine-gun era. Not to mention the early sidewinders had a hit rate of like 40% or less, and once you used them up you were SOL.
People started putting machine-gun pods on them and I understand they worked very well.
It was missile-only from the get-go when the world of aviation combat was still in the machine-gun era. Not to mention the early sidewinders had a hit rate of like 40% or less, and once you used them up you were SOL.
People started putting machine-gun pods on them and I understand they worked very well.
Mark Conley
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yep..366th Tactical Fighter Wing, based at DaNang Air Base in the Republic of Viet Nam. they put 20 mm cannon pods mounted on the centerline of the F-4 in viet nam...evened things out a lot.
http://www.foxonedecals.com/index.html?target=p_16.html&lang=en-us
heres a short site on it. theirs a better site if you search for the 366th fighter squadron.
http://www.366fightergroupassoc.org/ aw here it is
http://www.foxonedecals.com/index.html?target=p_16.html&lang=en-us
heres a short site on it. theirs a better site if you search for the 366th fighter squadron.
http://www.366fightergroupassoc.org/ aw here it is
silent driller
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I say the MiG 15 was trash compared to the Sabre.
Re: Okay I was wrong
It's true that there were manned versions of the V-1 but they never went to action.
54 of them were build and all were captured by the American army. They were brought back to the US for further development to use them against Japan. But luckily this didn't happen either.
Mark Conley said:
It's true that there were manned versions of the V-1 but they never went to action.
54 of them were build and all were captured by the American army. They were brought back to the US for further development to use them against Japan. But luckily this didn't happen either.
Sorry to dissagree the ME 163 was interceptor not a fighter not mush of a differance but still an impotant one however I do agree that it was a failure due only to the rushed production that it recieved.
The Japanese Baka suicide aircraft was a total failure all 18 where shot down on the first mission before they had a chance to even luanch and in total only one Allied ship was sunk due to this method
The Japanese Baka suicide aircraft was a total failure all 18 where shot down on the first mission before they had a chance to even luanch and in total only one Allied ship was sunk due to this method
doddsy2978
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Mark Conley said:
I was a Phantom Phixer and I loved 'em. You are right Mark, there are pros and cons in everything.
doddsy2978
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Uncle_Sam said:
I believe that the danger in these was the fuel - peroxide. This spontaniously combusts whith organic materials - trouble is - pilots and groundcrew are organic!
A Can of Man
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on the F-4.
The F-4 is still a very useful aircraft. Not by any means top of the line but for air strikes, photo reconnaissance and wild weasle missions, the F-4 is still a highly suitable weapon.
As for dated avionics etc, you can upgrade that quite easily.
But yes, the F-4's selling point is that it can haul heavy payloads, fly very fast, even for modern day jets it can outrun the lot of them, it's quite versitile in the areas that don't require dog fighting and it's hard to bring down.
The F-4 is still a very useful aircraft. Not by any means top of the line but for air strikes, photo reconnaissance and wild weasle missions, the F-4 is still a highly suitable weapon.
As for dated avionics etc, you can upgrade that quite easily.
But yes, the F-4's selling point is that it can haul heavy payloads, fly very fast, even for modern day jets it can outrun the lot of them, it's quite versitile in the areas that don't require dog fighting and it's hard to bring down.
victortsoi
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Mig-15s werent trash, they were flown by untrained peasant boys from china and north korea. The Mig-15 should have been a strict energy fighter, and the soviet volunteers in korea knew that, and managed to get a respectable (2-1:1) kill ratio vs the sabres.
redcoat
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Actually its 18 to Nil.SHERMAN said:
There are no records of a Baka scoring even a single success against US or Allied shipping.
ps has anybody else seen the gun camera footage of the bombers carring the Baka's being shot down.
Its quite a common piece of film in documentries on the air war in the Pacific :shock:
Hmmm, underneath is a translation from a book released in Israel 1982, simply called Aircraft, and published by the Israeli Ministry of Defence. It is an Encyclopedia of the important world military aircrft from 1914 and onwards. Here is a part of what is says about the MXY-7 Cherry Blossom/Baka(aproximate translation):
Here is a source for this in english:
http://www.free-definition.com/Ohka.html
Here is a source for this in english:
http://www.free-definition.com/Ohka.html
It depends on how u look at the Me-163 design and conclude its a failure...If i'm not mistaken the Komet was an interceptor and not a fighter. Yes it had flaws and failed but German scientists never had the opertunity to solve them, however the Me-163 was the first operational swept-wing plane, first rocket powered aircraft and well the basic idea behind it isn't that stupid either. After WW2 the UK and the US used it's swept-wing and rocket concept. The UK used the rocket and sweptwing concept in their experimental dual powered interceptor (i belive by De Havilland) that entered the design competition for NATO's interceptor allong with the Starfighter. The West-German Airforce wanted to operate the british design.....however the US goverment canceled funding for the developmentprogram (because of the starfighter) which led to its inevitable demise after Lockheed bribed several goverment officials to by the F-104.