Why not have elite forces for machines like tanks and jets?




 
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April 14th, 2005  
WarMachine
 
 

Topic: Why not have elite forces for machines like tanks and jets?


If we can invest money and training into special forces and get results, why not do the same for tanks? Think about it, you would have high-tech tanks from the highest bidder being used with unparalled skill by crewmen who are the best at what they do. Not just tanks, but jets, missleboats, and other vehicles that can have elite forces in them, wouldn't that be a useful asset on the battlefield?
April 14th, 2005  
LIPS
 
 
To big , to loud, they give off too much of a signiture not good if you want a surgical strike. They also need to be resuped and refitted far to often to be used in any SF role but are good for supporting such operations when the need arises.
April 14th, 2005  
Kozzy Mozzy
 
Well you have to realize what special forces are. They are for "special" missions. Tanks fight in conventional combat.
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April 14th, 2005  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
I think he just wants elite armored formations. Not really for stealth or anything...
April 14th, 2005  
WarMachine
 
 
yea, just the best of the best for whatever they do. So for tank combat, you have elite tank units to ensure maxium effectiveness with the most powerful weapons.
April 14th, 2005  
Kozzy Mozzy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarMachine
yea, just the best of the best for whatever they do. So for tank combat, you have elite tank units to ensure maxium effectiveness with the most powerful weapons.
Well there are already tank units that have a more elite status then others. They're the first to receive new gear and stuff.
April 14th, 2005  
Doppleganger
 
 
In reality though, are there really armoured formations in modern western armies that can be considered 'elite' in practical terms? Are there formations that receive more or better training or better equipment than others? Has the performance of formations in Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom meant that some formations are now considered elite as a result?

In the British Army there are no armoured formations that are considered 'elite' AFAIK. They are all equally highly trained and equipped.
April 14th, 2005  
bushpig1998
 
 
Didn't the Germans have Elite tank forces in WW2?

Tanks are a bit noisy for SF ops, but I can see SF units using "more quiet" aromored vehicles to get to their objective and complete the mission. See the SF guys using dune buggies.
April 14th, 2005  
Doppleganger
 
 
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Originally Posted by bushpig1998
Didn't the Germans have Elite tank forces in WW2?

Tanks are a bit noisy for SF ops, but I can see SF units using "more quiet" aromored vehicles to get to their objective and complete the mission. See the SF guys using dune buggies.
Yeah but WW2 was wartime which made a big difference. The initial Waffen SS Panzer/Panzergrenadier Divisions were elite as were the Army's 'Grossdeutschland' and 'Panzer Lehr' Divisions. Other Army Panzer divisions became elite according to their battle performance or who led them. The 2nd and 7th Panzer Divisions were considered elite for those reasons, 7th Panzer being Rommel's division in France 1940.

In peacetime today I'm not aware of the current German Army having any elite Panzer formations though not 100% sure on that.
April 14th, 2005  
Snauhi
 
Russia still use the "Guards" divisions and they are better equiped and trained.