What if Hitler had nuclear weapons?




 
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January 27th, 2010  
radarsonar
 

Topic: What if Hitler had nuclear weapons?


Evidence shows that Nazi scientists were working on nuclear energy projects, however because of the politicization of the academia in Germany, many renowned scientists fled Germany and this greatly affected nuclear capability of Germany.

Moreover, Hitler was not too much bothered about this "Nuclear weapon" which was beyond his imagination of traditional warfare. So, its clear that Germany could have developed a few 'dirty' bombs with nuclear elements but not a real atom bomb as powerful as the one Americans dropped on Hiroshima n Nagasaki.

1. What if Hitler had nuclear weapons at his disposal? would the outcome of the world war 2 been different?

2. would all the superpowers US, Soviet Union and Germany destroyed each other creating a new world order and unforgettable lesson on nuclear wars.
January 27th, 2010  
Yin717
 
 
Well actually, Germany was the closet to creating the nuclear bomb first. However, they couldn't get the right stone to make it work properly, they should have used granite I think but used something else. However they never got a chance to find out what stone to use because the Americans raided the lab before they could find out. They then took the plans and finally made them work.
January 30th, 2010  
7.62x51
 
If Germany had the bomb back around 1943, I'm convinced they would have used it. The Allies then would have completed their own and dropped them on Germany instead of Japan. It would have altered the war, but I believe the outcome would have been the same only with more destruction and death on all sides.
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January 30th, 2010  
Britney
 
 
New evidence points to Germany as the first to detonate a nuclear device, toward the end of the war, including lingering radiation five times greater then the surrounding area and intense blast marks. Nearly all the documentation and workers on the project (allegedly including Soviet POWs and Jewish people) had been destroyed. This stuff is brand new that contradicts a lot of pre-accepted history. A eye witness that died recently (apparently couldn't take it to the grave) was being interviewed and he said that only a few people even knew of the project, and even Mussolini was kept in the dark until the end of his life. He had given a few speeches about it, but i doubt he had any real idea on the progression.

There had always been speculation and a theory that Hitler had achieved some sort of nuclear fission, but they never had evidence to back it up. Now it seems that history could be turned upside down by recent discoveries.


If Hitler had indeed managed to create a atomic bomb, he would have done one of two things. Threaten to use it against say London, or New York to force a peace-settlement from the West, or used it against say Moscow, or perhaps that would;t be practical in 1945. He may have had plans to use it tactically to annihilate the massed formations of the Soviet army set to invade Berlin, maybe hoping to thwart a Soviet attack and instead surounder to the allies. I belive he may have been crazy enough to try to hit Mowscow, i can easily hear him saying " If we lose Berlin, you will loose Mowscow"
January 30th, 2010  
LeEnfield
 
 
Germany was working on a dirty bomb to drop on New York. The core would have been high explosive and the rest of the bomb would have been made up with highly radio active material. The idea was to explode high over New York and allow the radiation to be spread by the wind and causing untold deaths by radio active poisoning
January 30th, 2010  
redcoat
 
 
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Originally Posted by LeEnfield
Germany was working on a dirty bomb to drop on New York. The core would have been high explosive and the rest of the bomb would have been made up with highly radio active material. The idea was to explode high over New York and allow the radiation to be spread by the wind and causing untold deaths by radio active poisoning
Firstly, the German's had stopped working on an atomic bomb by 1943, the German leadership with advice from its leading nuclear scientists had come to the conclusion that any weapon would not be ready until long after the war. The only nuclear research carried on after this time was on the use of nuclear power as a cheap source of energy.
At no point were the German's ever in advance of the Allies in research on making an atomic weapon during WW2.

Secondly, the German's were not working on a so-called 'dirty bomb'. To make an effective weapon of this type you need nuclear material which has been proccessed through an atomic reactor, otherwise the radioactive material available is not nearly dangerous enough to human health to make a weapon of this type effective. The German's did not have a working nuclear reactor.
January 30th, 2010  
redcoat
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Britney
New evidence points to Germany as the first to detonate a nuclear device, toward the end of the war, including lingering radiation five times greater then the surrounding area and intense blast marks. Nearly all the documentation and workers on the project (allegedly including Soviet POWs and Jewish people) had been destroyed. This stuff is brand new that contradicts a lot of pre-accepted history. A eye witness that died recently (apparently couldn't take it to the grave) was being interviewed and he said that only a few people even knew of the project, and even Mussolini was kept in the dark until the end of his life. He had given a few speeches about it, but i doubt he had any real idea on the progression.
There was a German author a couple of years ago who claimed this, but the only evidence he had was hearsay, (ie; people who had heard stories about it from other people) and claims of excessive radiation at certain points, which have since been disproved.
January 31st, 2010  
LeEnfield
 
 
If they were not working on a dirty bomb then how come all the materials were on a Submarine heading for Japan along with with instructions on how to build a dirty bomb when the war ended. When the war in Europe ended the Germans surrendered the submarine and it was taken to America were the cargo was so toxic the Americans made the crew unload the Radio Active material. This cargo was not stored in the Submarine but under the false deck of the submarine. The Japanese on board the Submarine committed suicide and were buried at sea.
January 31st, 2010  
Spaniard
 
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Originally Posted by LeEnfield
If they were not working on a dirty bomb then how come all the materials were on a Submarine heading for Japan along with with instructions on how to build a dirty bomb when the war ended. When the war in Europe ended the Germans surrendered the submarine and it was taken to America were the cargo was so toxic the Americans made the crew unload the Radio Active material. This cargo was not stored in the Submarine but under the false deck of the submarine. The Japanese on board the Submarine committed suicide and were buried at sea.

I don't remember when, but I read about this. how about those Hot Air Balloon Bombs, they realised so many over the ocean allowing the
jet stream to guide them. A few did end up in the US and Canada I remember reading that.
February 1st, 2010  
MontyB
 
 
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Originally Posted by Spaniard
I don't remember when, but I read about this. how about those Hot Air Balloon Bombs, they realised so many over the ocean allowing the
jet stream to guide them. A few did end up in the US and Canada I remember reading that.
They were standard bombs delivered by elaborately designed balloons as I recall a couple reached the USA and failed to function and the rest splashed down in the ocean.

http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/...cle_8992.shtml

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeEnfield
If they were not working on a dirty bomb then how come all the materials were on a Submarine heading for Japan along with with instructions on how to build a dirty bomb when the war ended. When the war in Europe ended the Germans surrendered the submarine and it was taken to America were the cargo was so toxic the Americans made the crew unload the Radio Active material. This cargo was not stored in the Submarine but under the false deck of the submarine. The Japanese on board the Submarine committed suicide and were buried at sea.
You are thinking of U-234.

http://www.uboat.net/boats/u234.htm


If you want to know more about the German atomic program of the time I would recommend Heisenberg's War as it is a good read however Germany had only completed its first atomic pile by the wars end which placed it roughly about the same stage that the USA was in 1942 in terms of producing an atomic bomb.

On the whole Heisenberg really didn't have much of a clue and tried to pretend after the war that his failure was deliberate on order to prevent the Nazi's getting the bomb however post war interrogations and study of his work indicated that he was basically clueless.
 


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