What If: Eurofighter and JSF cancelled - Page 4




 
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May 23rd, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
I agree totally, but do yourself a favour and check out the BAE website and see what they are up to, what they produce and where, I was amazed. They even took over Denel here in South Africa.
I checked their website and what they are doing. They are everywhere
September 6th, 2012  
jayraptor
 
EF2000 and F-35 will not be cancelled. For NATO especially UK, EF2000 will be used primarily for common air to air and air to ground sorties where stealth not required but weapons count.
F-35A will be for stealth sorties:
1) hitting vital targets such as C&C HQ, GCI radar, SAM sites, supply lines, storages, etc behind enemy lines
2) served in most frontal lines ahead EF2000 to attack the possible threat such as Su-27SM, Su-30MK and Su-35BM from behind while EF2000 will finish off the rest with long range Meteor.

F-35B will be used mainly for close air support, most likely to be fitted with external ordnance on under wing pylons supporting ground troops attacking armored columns and invading tanks alongside attack helicopters..

For US, the F-35A/B/C will replace the F-16 and F/A-18 phase by phase for all sorties. Probably with variants carrying weapons externally where stealth is less required. It'll forgo stealth but will appear as low RCS on radar. The stealth variant will destroy all high potential threat first before the low RCS variants carrying ordnance externally are deployed.

If LM tried to cut throat with excessive pricing, the US Congress and MOD could always count on Boeing with Mc'D DNA partnered with Northrop/Grumman to develop their counterpart such as F-32 that will sell cheaper probably better with their much experience in building fighters.
October 21st, 2012  
beitou
 
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
Knowing the stupidity of the British government, they would probably order the Spitfires and Hurricanes of the Battle of Britain Flight to be made ready for operations.
Don't forget the Lancaster for when the Tornadoes retire.
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October 23rd, 2012  
HindStrike
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayraptor
EF2000 and F-35 will not be cancelled. For NATO especially UK, EF2000 will be used primarily for common air to air and air to ground sorties where stealth not required but weapons count.
F-35A will be for stealth sorties:
1) hitting vital targets such as C&C HQ, GCI radar, SAM sites, supply lines, storages, etc behind enemy lines
2) served in most frontal lines ahead EF2000 to attack the possible threat such as Su-27SM, Su-30MK and Su-35BM from behind while EF2000 will finish off the rest with long range Meteor.

F-35B will be used mainly for close air support, most likely to be fitted with external ordnance on under wing pylons supporting ground troops attacking armored columns and invading tanks alongside attack helicopters..

For US, the F-35A/B/C will replace the F-16 and F/A-18 phase by phase for all sorties. Probably with variants carrying weapons externally where stealth is less required. It'll forgo stealth but will appear as low RCS on radar. The stealth variant will destroy all high potential threat first before the low RCS variants carrying ordnance externally are deployed.

If LM tried to cut throat with excessive pricing, the US Congress and MOD could always count on Boeing with Mc'D DNA partnered with Northrop/Grumman to develop their counterpart such as F-32 that will sell cheaper probably better with their much experience in building fighters.
I was asking if they had been cancelled early in development, not currently.
January 7th, 2013  
elpha01
 
 
If the F-35 is cancelled, UK could change his aircraft carrier program by buying Rafale M (who are operational). France talked with UK to make a french new aircraft carrier inspired by the new helizabeth class who can carrys Rafale M. There are an heavy partnerships between these two navys. May be that UK can build a different aircraft carrier compatible to Rafale M until devellop a new jets fighter who could be operational later.
January 7th, 2013  
Capt Frogman
 
 
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Originally Posted by elpha01
If the F-35 is cancelled, UK could change his aircraft carrier program by buying Rafale M (who are operational). France talked with UK to make a french new aircraft carrier inspired by the new helizabeth class who can carrys Rafale M. There are an heavy partnerships between these two navys. May be that UK can build a different aircraft carrier compatible to Rafale M until devellop a new jets fighter who could be operational later.
Never going to happen, especially as the new carriers are already being built.

Plus we have no more money available...
January 7th, 2013  
elpha01
 
 
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Originally Posted by Capt Frogman
Never going to happen, especially as the new carriers are already being built.

Plus we have no more money available...
No more money avaible? But what if the cost of the F-35 would increase again? And does UK will build a second AC?
January 7th, 2013  
Capt Frogman
 
 
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Originally Posted by elpha01
No more money avaible? But what if the cost of the F-35 would increase again? And does UK will build a second AC?
We're building 2 new AC's.

Yes, no more money. As it is, we're cutting our armed forces (navy, army, marines and airforce) right back.
January 8th, 2013  
BritinBritain
 
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...acks-bite.html

Britain will be forced to borrow U.S. warplanes to fly from the Royal Navy's new aircraft carriers because of defence cuts, the Daily Mail can reveal.
The Navy's Harrier Jump Jets - the aircraft that won renown in the Falklands conflict - are to be retired early leaving the two new carriers with no aircraft when they come into service.

Under the plans, the U.S. Marines would be invited to fly from the British carriers in joint operations and the Navy is also examining the prospect of leasing aircraft from the Americans.

Major costs savings are necessary because the Treasury budget for the carriers only covers the costs of building an empty shell - leaving no money for the aircraft to fly from them.
A senior military source said: 'The U.S. Marines have the aircraft. Their aircraft would fly from the British carriers. Or we could borrow some from them.

'The Treasury are happy to pay for the carriers but there's an issue over the cost of the aircraft.'

Are they ****ing stupid, what good is a carrier without aircraft. The stupidity of the British government knows no bounds.

Read the rest of the article, I am astonished beyond words.
January 8th, 2013  
udaka
 
Eurofighter and JSF project are out-date now.

China is developing some new space battleships who can carry the nuclear warheads patrol the solar system.
like this:


of course ,these European claim the Chinese stole their design and idea again.