UK and US resist aid 'bidding war' - Page 2




 
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Boots
 
January 8th, 2005  
Lil Hulk 1988
 
Why wouldn't we resist a "bidding war"? What other country, besides the locals, Austrialia and NZ, have dedicated Helos, Ships, and personnel to help these people. You can donate as much money as you like, you still need to get it to the people that need it. Does the EU have the ability to send massive amounts of true aid that will get to the people? Germany has pledged $600, but how is it going to get to the people? What ships, helos or personnel are going to deliver it? (THe Germans on the board. please do not take this as a slam, it isn't just an example) A bidding war is a politcal tool the DOES NOT HELP THE VICTIMS AT ALL.
January 8th, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
agreed
there was this massive stink kicked up by people at new years eve there were HEAPS of angry letters sent to newspapers about how dare the government waste all this money on fireworks when it could be used far more productively by being sent to tsunami victims.
while i do agree with them i think that the point stands that there are always worthy recipents, to me i i think its a pity that its only when such a widespread disaster that people actually stop to think about how money might be put to better use
we had that here in dunedin...but by the time the tsunami hit...most of the fireworks would have been bought and paid for.
January 8th, 2005  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
It's amazing how quickly politics has taken over human compassion in a huge disaster like the Tsunami. There are people here in the US critisising the UN for demanding our help after the UN's "attitude" to Iraq.

Due to the nature of the Tsunami, I refuse to engage in any type of political debate. Everyone needs to shut up and work together to help out the best way we can.

SGT Doody
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Boots
January 8th, 2005  
DTop
 
 
There are always people here in the U.S. that criticize everything. Unfortunately politics tend to overshadow the real issues too often.
I think it's good for people to talk about their feelings no matter how they feel.
The whole point of the post was to demonstrate that some governments are taking steps to get aid where it's needed most. We've all witnessed aid getting misdirected and people suffering because of it. Some of us have witnessed it first hand. So, if there anything that can be done to really help more victims, I'm all for it and I'd like to think we're all for it as well.
You bet the world needs to pull together to help these people and not let politics hinder the effort in any way. Each of us needs to do whatever we possibly can on our own individual level as well. It all starts in the home.
January 9th, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doody
It's amazing how quickly politics has taken over human compassion in a huge disaster like the Tsunami. There are people here in the US critisising the UN for demanding our help after the UN's "attitude" to Iraq.

Due to the nature of the Tsunami, I refuse to engage in any type of political debate. Everyone needs to shut up and work together to help out the best way we can.

SGT Doody
good call, here here!
January 10th, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
Maybe Sri Lanka, Thailand and India but to do this for Aceh... well if that money goes directly to Aceh and not the Indonesian government, consider yourself funding Al Qaeda. They don't really feel any true gratitude when large sums of money land on their laps like this. It's simply summed up in one word, "Inshallah," it's God's will. The fact that we're giving it is totally irrelevent.
I say this from living many years in Indonesia.
This is really utterly stupid. Just send some money and let themselves sort themselves out because they're fully capable of doing it.
January 10th, 2005  
Pogue Mahone
 
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Originally Posted by Anya1982
I can understand why UK won't give more money as we simply can't afford it, but we do have a lot of our disaster relief trained military out there.

On other hand ithas been said on a TV programme that USA has not even given south east asia a QTR of what it gave one of its states last yr. Think US gov gave an american state 75million for use.............yet more money is spent on the iraq war.

Kinda puts in to perspective what is more important..............

I strongly agree that the world has pulled together to help South East asia, yet why do we fight over inmoral things when there is more to life??
Such comparisons are tempting but lead nowhere

Many Hollywood blockbusters earn returns in the 300-500M range - and will continue to do so afterwards

Does this mean that people care more about movies than they do about the dead in SE Asia?

As for the aid to Florida - why should that be a factor?

Did Thailand send anything to Florida to help after the hurricanes?

Of course not - and it was not expected

Compassion should be appreciated - not compared to other events

Its as if you gave some poor person $100 to help them and someone said to you "but you gave your son $10,000 - why are you so cheap"

All the more galling when the other party only gave $10
January 11th, 2005  
Anya1982
 
 

Topic: yeah but


Hurricane is alot different to the biggest tidal wave in 40yrs...........wiped out half a population and still counting and near enough half of the islands.

South east asia do not have the money and are not equipt for such an enormous devestation were as countries like states, UK,Germany etc are equipt.

Greed stops people from giving and helping......................south east asia did not ask for help if anyhting they have asked for no more, yet the caring people in this world will stillk not let a devestation like this go..........something like 24 thousand people are dead..........i know hurricane was bad but it don't notch up to how many were killed in asia
January 11th, 2005  
DTop
 
 
Warning - UK and US resist aid 'bidding war' is the topic. Hurricanes vs. tidal wave is not. Stay on topic. You're welcome to start a weather thread. Future off topic posts will be deleted.
January 11th, 2005  
Locke
 
 
its interesting how often countries perform acts of kindness, not for the good of the act, so that they get good press. suchas little johnnies 1bil, it seems to be a very good publicity tool