U.S. Envisions Using Nukes on Terrorists




 
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September 11th, 2005  
Duty Honor Country
 
 

Topic: U.S. Envisions Using Nukes on Terrorists


WASHINGTON -

A Pentagon planning document being updated to reflect the doctrine of pre-emption declared by President Bush in 2002 envisions the use of nuclear weapons to deter terrorists from using weapons of mass destruction against the United States or its allies.

he "Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations," which was last updated 10 years ago, makes clear that "the decision to employ nuclear weapons at any level requires explicit orders from the president."

But it says that in a changing environment "terrorists or regional states armed with WMD will likely test U.S. security commitments to its allies and friends."

"In response, the U.S. needs a range of capabilities to assure friend and foe alike of its resolve," says the 69-page document dated March 15 and posted on a Pentagon web site.

The draft is still being circulated among the various services, field commanders, Pentagon lawyers and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's office.

Its existence was initially reported by The Washington Post in Sunday editions.

"A broader array of capability is needed to dissuade states from undertaking ... courses of action that would threaten U.S. and allied security," the draft says. "U.S. forces must pose a credible deterrent to potential adversaries who have access to modern military technology, including WMD and the means to deliver them."

It says "deterrence of potential adversary WMD use requires the potential adversary leadership to believe the United States has both the ability and will to pre-empt or retaliate promptly with responses that are credible and effective."

It says "this will be particularly difficult with nonstate (non-government) actors who employ or attempt to gain use of WMD. Here, deterrence may be directed at states that support their efforts as well as the terrorist organization itself.

"However, the continuing proliferation of WMD along with the means to deliver them increases the probability that someday a state/nonstate actor nation/terrorist may, through miscaluation or by deliberate choice, use those weapons. In such cases, deterrence, even based on the threat of massive destruction, may fail and the United States must be prepared to use nuclear weapons if necessary."

It notes that U.S. policy has always been purposely vague with regard to when the United States would use nuclear weapons and that it has never vowed not to be the first to use them in a conflict.

One scenario for a possible nuclear pre-emptive strike in the draft would be in the case of an "imminent attack from adversary biological weapons that only effects from nuclear weapons can safely destroy."

The Bush administration is continuing to push for development of an earth-penetrating nuclear warhead, but has yet to obtain congressional approval.

However, the Senate voted in July to revive the "bunker-buster" program that Congress last year decided to kill.

Administration officials have maintained that the U.S. needs to try to develop a nuclear warhead that would be capable of destroying deeply buried targets including bunkers tunneled into solid rock.

But opponents said that its benefits are questionable and that such a warhead would cause extensive radiation fallout above ground killing thousands of people. And they say it may make it easier for a future president to decide to use the nuclear option instead of a conventional weapon.

The Senate voted 53-43 to include $4 million for research into the feasibility of a bunker-buster nuclear warhead. Earlier this year, the House refused to provide the money, so a final decision will have to be worked out between the two chambers.

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September 11th, 2005  
phoenix80
 
 
I've always been thinking if we could produce a type of nuke that just vaporizes the person whom we shoot at. LoL

That way, we don't need to waste time and money on burials, identification process and other stuff.

:P
September 11th, 2005  
Rabs
 
 
I think we need them, however i think useing them has lots of things that could go wrong and lots of consequence and should only be a last resort.

And phoneix thats what im worried about, first nuclear bombs then nuclear torpedos then nuclear bullets god knows were it will stop once using these types of weapons becomes acceptable.
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September 11th, 2005  
phoenix80
 
 
Rabs, it was just a piece of theory in my dream world... LoL

But it sounds good to me though!
September 11th, 2005  
Marinerhodes
 
 
I was wondering about when they would come up with something like this to be honest. It seems to me that with todays technology that we could make a bomb that is large enough to do the job without leaving behind the negative side effects of nuclear fallout etc etc.

Hard to say. As it is Nuclear weapons are, in my opinion, a pandora's box. It is open and now years later with the new technology, we are dealing with the consequences. God save and rest the souls of those that have been and will ever be affected.
September 12th, 2005  
Missileer
 
 
I think the plan was to use bunker busters(deep penetration)with enough warhead to set off earth movements by shockwave to collapse several square miles of tunnels and caves. This will require small nukes and the earth will provide enough attenuation around the site to render lower levels of radiation harmless.
September 12th, 2005  
Rabs
 
 
Yes Yes it might be perfectly safe and alternative, its just the moral princple of the thing. Im just afraid of that Nuke word it scares me.
September 12th, 2005  
Missileer
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabs
Yes Yes it might be perfectly safe and alternative, its just the moral princple of the thing. Im just afraid of that Nuke word it scares me.
Me too.
A little aside story but still on topic. In the early 50's, I was in grammar school, and there was a special on the Ed Sullivan Show about the effects of a nuclear blast on humans. At the first, Ed S. made an announcement that small children shouldn't view it but I watched it. It was a very crude cartoonlike town and people. There was no music, just a very quiet, low narrator describing each effect. At first, there were people looking up at the cloud and their eyes burst and ran down their cheeks. Then their skin started peeling off their bodies. That's when I decided to leave the room. By today's standards, it was a crude, silly film clip but I still remember it today. Scared the bejeebers out of me.
September 12th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
While going through NBC training many years ago I saw the pictures of Harry Daghlian and Louis Slotin, the first two radiation victims to be well documented. Daghlian's was particularly graphic. I try not to think about it all, but I do think about it anytime somebody mentions using a nuke.

However, with the near impervious bunker making abilities as was first shown by Marshal Tito in Yugoslavia, and as is now being copied elsewhere in the world and improved upon, we do need to have something that can penetrate that level of protection. At present, that would appear to require a low yield (5 kiloton) nuke.
September 12th, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 
I think it is a good idea.