T-90 Vs Abrams




 
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August 8th, 2011  
LTBarack
 

Topic: T-90 Vs Abrams


which Tank of them do you think will rule over?
August 8th, 2011  
Korean Seaboy
 
 
It all depends on the environment, as well as the crew. If the crew was the same, then I'd guess the Abrams on a 1:1, but the T-90 is cheap compared to the Abrams, so it would be hard to decide
August 8th, 2011  
LTBarack
 
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Originally Posted by Korean Seaboy
It all depends on the environment, as well as the crew. If the crew was the same, then I'd guess the Abrams on a 1:1, but the T-90 is cheap compared to the Abrams, so it would be hard to decide
what about egyptian abrams (Abrams without the Depleted Uranium Strike Plates)?
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August 9th, 2011  
HindStrike
 
 
Like seaboy said, it still depends on the crew and terrain and many other factors. If the crew is equal then I give it to the abrams still because of the m829 series of du penetrators that it uses. They are far superior to any penetrators made in Russia. That and its superior sensors and battlefield management systems will allow the abrams to see the t-90 first. So overall the abrams still wins.
August 9th, 2011  
LTBarack
 
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Originally Posted by HindStrike
Like seaboy said, it still depends on the crew and terrain and many other factors. If the crew is equal then I give it to the abrams still because of the m829 series of du penetrators that it uses. They are far superior to any penetrators made in Russia. That and its superior sensors and battlefield management systems will allow the abrams to see the t-90 first. So overall the abrams still wins.
well,from my researchs,i believe that the T-90 have bigger fire power(125 mm smoothbore gun with ability to launch Anti-tank missiles too) and both of those ammos can penetrate inside the Abrams shields.
August 9th, 2011  
HindStrike
 
 
That big 125mm smooth-bore gun is a lower velocity and the rounds it shoots wont have the kinetic energy that the l44 on the abrams has. And with its better sensors and thermal imaging, the odds of a t-90 flanking the abrams without being detected are very small. Abrams still wins.
August 9th, 2011  
LTBarack
 
i'm not sure of it dude, i know that the t-90 has enough fire power to destroy the abrams , i mean you will only need one direct shot to destroy the enemy's tank in both war machines, but you said that the abrams have bigger chances to "lock on" the t-90 first,while the t-90 is smaller,lower and lighter.
i truly can't understand why the abrams is superior then the t-90...cuz of the havy armor?come on dude,the t-90's shields are havy too.
August 9th, 2011  
lolwhassup
 
 
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Originally Posted by LTBarack
i'm not sure of it dude, i know that the t-90 has enough fire power to destroy the abrams , i mean you will only need one direct shot to destroy the enemy's tank in both war machines, but you said that the abrams have bigger chances to "lock on" the t-90 first,while the t-90 is smaller,lower and lighter.
i truly can't understand why the abrams is superior then the t-90...cuz of the havy armor?come on dude,the t-90's shields are havy too.
If you've been reading what all the people before you have written, then you would realize the Abrams is superior because of

1) The Abrams has a superior Fire Control System.
2) It has Depleted Uranium plates on the frontal armor, so it is better protected.
3) The Abrams has a higher top speed than the T-90 despite the Abrams being heavier.
4) As HindStrike has said, the Abrams uses the L44 120mm Smooth-bore that fires shells at a higher velocity than the T-90's 125mm, not to mention the M829A3 that was specifically designed to counter Russian reactive armor.

Oh and on your point about the T-90 being able to fire ATGMs, the T-90 can only fire it's ATGMs while it's stationary or moving at an extremely slow speed.
August 9th, 2011  
HindStrike
 
 
Smaller and lower doesn't mean invisible, the abrams will still see the t-90 first, and superior fcs means it will get the first shot off. And no, if the abrams doesn't have du armor plates, then the protection is about equal, just the m829a3 du penetrators used by the abrams can penetrate 960mm rha equivalent. While the 3bm46 tungsten long-rod penetrators used by the t-90 have 800mm rha equivalent penetration ability. So even with era, the t-90 will be destroyed by the abrams in 1v1 combat.
August 10th, 2011  
LTBarack
 
1*Abrams is better cuz its faster? 2-3 km/h faster...that does not make any difference...the t90's 100km+ of range does.
2*the heay size of the abrams make it much more visible in battle field , and of course limits its mobility...which is an advantage for the t-90.
3*the abrams gun is better and has longer range? come on, the t-90's gun is bigger,capable of firing ATGM rounds with a pin-point accuracy at high range (5km+) while standards abrams rounds lose effectiveness and fly off-course after a range of 2km+...so t-90's gun is the one with the longest range.
4*abrams has better protection? yeah,but the t-90's K-5 ERA is very effective against the abrams M829 penetrators bro.in the other hand,t-90 has a unique defense system,shrora,wich is able to jam ATGMs including tow,javelin,dragon..
5*t-90 is an upgraded t-72..and the abrams is better then the iraqi t-72 chinese model? even the t-90 is better then the t72m.
6*the t-90 can hit 7 targets between 1.5 km and 2.5 km while moving at 25 km/h speed and in 54 sec only...abrams did never do that,infact,with such accuracy,it just can't.
7*if a m829 penetrate inside the t-90,there is a small chance that the tank explodes,cuz the ammo stored inside the autoloader is pretty safe,the penetration of the turret will only disable the tank's fire power...don't forget that the t90 is lower.
**that doesn't mean that the abrams is weak ,that only means that the T-90 is superior in most of the times.
so sorry but 1 vs 1 ,90% of the time,the t-90 will win,at list its crew will survive.
 


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