Sturmtiger, the deathstar of world war 2




 
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June 6th, 2005  
Armyjaeger
 
 

Topic: Sturmtiger, the deathstar of world war 2


http://www.achtungpanzer.com/sttig.htm

Few quotes from that link

"The Sturmtiger was armed with a short-barreled 38cm Raketenwerfer 61 L/5.4, breech-loading rocket launcher/mortar. The RW 61 launcher fired short-range (4,600 to 6,000 meters, or 2,850 to 3,720 yards) high-explosive rocket-propelled projectiles. The launcher was fitted with a PaK Zielfernrohr 3 x 8 telescopic sight. Each projec-tile was almost 1.5m (five feet) long and weighed 345 to 351kg (759 to 772 pounds). Two types of ammunition were available-high-explosive Raketen Sprenggranate 4581 (with a 125kg, or 275 pound, explosive charge) and shaped-charge Raketen Hohladungsgranate 4582 for use against fortifications. The shaped-charge round could penetrate up 2.5m (8 feet) of reinforced concrete."

"Most vehicles carried only 13 rounds, without the one on the loading tray. The vehicle was equipped with a hand-operated lifting crane mounted on the right rear of the superstructure. This was used to load projectiles into the vehicle and needed the entire crew of five to operate. "

"In January 1945, a single round from a PzStuMrKp 1001 Sturmtiger reportedly destroyed three American M-4 Sherman tanks located in a targeted village. "

Comments, opinions, anyone
June 6th, 2005  
Jäger
 
 
I think the German tanks in WWII were better then the US, but what does it help you having the better tank when you have no gas or ammunition. And i think the advantage of the sherman is that he wars easy to produce.
June 6th, 2005  
fronzz
 
 
Whoa!!!
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June 6th, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jäger
I think the German tanks in WWII were better then the US, but what does it help you having the better tank when you have no gas or ammunition. And i think the advantage of the sherman is that he wars easy to produce.
Agree 100% especially if you look at tank on tank combat. The German Panzers with an 88mm Main Gun against a Sherman with a 75mm low velocity main gun. Coupled with the high profile of the Sherman gave the advantage to the Germans.
June 6th, 2005  
MontyB
 
 
Yes, I think it was just another sign of the German militaries weird thinking at the end of the war, why were dwindling resources spent building a vehicle designed to support a military going forward when you have been in retreat for the previous 2 years.

To my mind they would have been better spent on getting the basics to the front rather than a few spify but ultimately ineffective weapons on the field.
June 6th, 2005  
Jäger
 
 
I think the great problem was that Hitler had not much knowledge of warfare and he just wanted new nice toys. Another problem was that the informations that came from the front often sounded better than the situation really was. Maybe for propaganda, maybe not to annoy the 'Führer'.
June 6th, 2005  
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jäger
I think the great problem was that Hitler had not much knowledge of warfare and he just wanted new nice toys. Another problem was that the informations that came from the front often sounded better than the situation really was. Maybe for propaganda, maybe not to annoy the 'Führer'.
That maybe true but when the front is a mere 2 hour march away as opposed to a 7 day train ride the year before even the most deluded should realise things are not going well and that rather than producing countless "toys" it was time to consolidate on the tried and true for no other reason than ease of manufacture and supply.
June 6th, 2005  
Jäger
 
 
Yes, but don't say that to me say that to the leaders of the '3rd Reich', but Hitler was so in ilusions, that he wouldn't realize it. He was more than crazy and maybe it's better that he did do it this way, so the war did not go longer.
June 6th, 2005  
Stosstruppen
 
Read anything about the 'Sturmtiger's' operational history and you will see that it was practically useless and achieved very little. The action were it destroyed 3 Shermans in a village is often printed about in books because it is probably the only notable sucess the vehicle ever achieved and even then it was only three tanks that were easily replaced.

"Their heavy armor protection forced the enemy to destroy them with heavy artillery bombardment or air attack."

This really wasn't a problem since this is how the American military usually destroyed any major opposition it encountered, large or small. Hell, the USAF practically wiped the entire elite 'Panzer Lehr' division of the face of the earth with repeated heavy bomber strikes during Operation Cobra, so the use of it's vast material superiority was kind of the USA's strongsuit!

To quote from the book "The Tiger Tanks", by Peter Gudgin, "what purpose Hitler had in mind for these short-range assault weapons for attacking strongly constructed emplacements, at a time when the German Army was in retreat and on the defensive on all fronts, is not clear; it is another example of his preoccupation with size and his interference in German tank design and production, with adverse effects on both." They would have been far better off using their limited resources to churn out as many of the Tigers and Panther tank series as possible.

The 'Sturmtiger' was hardly a 'Deathstar'.
June 8th, 2005  
Darcia
 
It isn't suprising the germans would build something they didn't need. After all they did build the 'Dora' possibly one of the worst military inventions of all times. However remember Hitler was a drug addict at the end of the war so he would probably support anything. It is said he believed the Germans were winning until the very end.