Strykers - Page 4

March 2nd, 2005  
Originally Posted by Cadet Airman Adam Seaman
Well the whole point in not having a 25mm turret on the Stryker is that the Commando series had one and the gun and ammo tookup lagre amount of room and where very prone to grenade and cocktail attacks.

Someone said a Stryker /w a 25mm passed their g/f at high speeds. Did it have its combat armor on? Did it have all its ammo? Did it have its full crew? Whaqt it being fired upon by Fedeyeen?

Another thing about the Stryker is it doesn't carry spare tires, the M113 carries spare track.

(Forgive mean if I seem rude and disrespectful. It's hard to debate when you don't know what ppl have done or been through or who is the real deal and who's not.)
the NZLAV that passed my G/f's car last week had a full load of soldiers, but, i assume, no ammo. we have no need to hang extra armour/ RPG sheilds off them. as for the '13 carrying extra track, how would that make a difference? if it's in a situation of having a track blown would they replace it?

not trying to attack you cadet, just interested! personally i thought the money NZ spent on the NZLAV's would've been better spent on bringing the '13's kicking and screaming into today. but by the same token i see why the NZLAV's were a good idea too.
March 2nd, 2005  
Charge 7
It takes a heck of alot longer to fix a broken track than replace a tire.
March 3rd, 2005  
Originally Posted by Charge_7
It takes a heck of alot longer to fix a broken track than replace a tire.
mmm thats what i thought
March 3rd, 2005  
Whispering Death
Yeah, I remember my ex-army boss telling me the worst part of his job was driving out on the practice range and fixing broken Bradley tracks in the middle of the summer heat.
March 3rd, 2005  
I can't not say for sure what the Strykers top speed is with full battle rattle and loaded with soldiers. However I have been in them and followed them through Iraq and have hit speeds over 60 mph. All of them have the armor and RPG fence around the outside and enough soldiers to defend a convoy so I would say they are pretty well loaded down. I have spoke with several soldiers that drive/ride in them and they claim the Stryker will hit speeds of over 70 mph. I am looking for some hard documentation of top speed but have not found a lot yet, more t come.

The armor system on the Strykers (with the external 'RPG Cage') is supposed to be capable of stopping RPG-7 rounds, 14.5mm armor piercing rounds, and 152mm overhead artillery fire. All of this is dependent upon having the cage and extra add on armor though. Here is a link that has quite a bit of information about them.
March 3rd, 2005  
Since the ASLAV's have run flats with solid cores, it doesn't matter so much for changing them. My mate had the 4 mid section tyres on his LAV shot out in Baghdad, and drove it at full belt to a convoy crash they were responding to, got there and back fine... needless to say the tyres were un-repairable and very very hot, but they didn't impare performance at all.
March 3rd, 2005  
Well... In Canada, we have LAV 3's.... which are the same as the Aussie's in fact we pioneered them. It is the same as a Stryker except as mentioned before it has a bushmaster 25mm chain cannon on it. It is very fast, as has a hell of a lot of fire power. I drove one for 2 years and they are a great piece of kit. With add on armour and the "war" chip which increases the horsepower to compensate for the add on armour, it can get almost anywhere quickly and give direct fire support. I had my LAV up to 120km's per hour. They survived mine strikes in Eritrea and manoeuvered easily on the small streets in Haiti. Also the thermal sights are a great asset. I think if they are used in the correct role they could be considered the best vehicles in their class.
Without the 25mm on top in my opinion puts it at a great disadvantage. So I can understand if people who use the American version instead of the Canadian/Aussie don't like them.
March 3rd, 2005  
FO Seaman
Originally Posted by Charge_7
It takes a heck of alot longer to fix a broken track than replace a tire.
Yes, but where do you put the replacement tire on the LAV?

Can't find the Stryker specs. Must be classified? Well I know the Marines carry the LAV-25, the LAV /w the 25mm chaingun.

I have no problem with the Stryker, I just find it quite light for combat with RPGs and other ATMs. Arm it with a 20mm or 25mm and a few weapons ports and maybe a lillte more armor and a powerful engine, and that would be a mean machine.

Look at this. I was looking at the topic: Stryker survived 500 pound bomb.

General: M113A4

Length 191.5"
Width 105.75"
Height 86.5"
Clearance 16"
Weight, combat loaded 27,180 lb. (12,329 kg)
Maximum weight 31,000 lb. (14,061 kg)
Net weight 23,880 lb. (10,832 kg)
Air drop weight 22,128 lb. (10,037 kg)
Personnel capacity 2 + 11
Fuel tank capacity 95 gallons (360 liters)
Ground pressure 8.63 psi (0.60 kg/cm2)

Speed on land 41 mi/h (66 km/h)
Speed in water, with track 3.6 mi/h (5.8 km/h)
Cruising range 300 mi (483 km)
Turning radius Pivot to infinite
Slope 60%
Side slope 40%
Trench crossing 66 in. (168 cm)
Vertical wall climbing 24 in. (61 cm)
Braking (20-0 mi/h) 40 ft.

Make and model Detroit Diesel 6V53T
Displacement 318 in.3 (5.2 liter)
Fuel Diesel (DF2)
Rated horsepower 275 hp
Gross horsepower-to-weight ratio 20.2 hp/ton
Transmission, Automatic

Make and model Allison X200-4B
Type Hydrokinetic
Steering Hydrostatic
Brake type Multiple wet plate
Running Gear

Suspension Torsion bar
Road wheels 5 per side, 24 inch diameter (61 cm)
Track type Steel single pin, detachable rubber pad
Number of shoes 63 left, 64 right
Track pitch 6 in. (15.2 cm)
Track width 15 in. (38 cm)
Shock absorbers 3 per side
Wheel travel 9.0 in. (22.9 cm)
Electrical System

Amperes 200, 300 optional
Volts, dc 28
Batteries 4, type 6TL, 120 amp-hr, 12-volt each

50 cal MG 2,000 ready rds.

Basic hull 5083 Aluminum
Bolt-on armor kit Steel armor
Mine armor Steel armor
Gun shield kit Steel armor
Spall suppressant Composite panel
Fire Extinguishers

Fixed 5 lb. (2.3 kg) CO2 for engine compartment
Portable 5 lb. (2.3 kg) CO2
March 3rd, 2005  
Whispering Death
Have we even defined what the roll of the Stryker is in the American military?

I mean, if it is only for support and more 2nd line and rear line duties then arn't the claims for more armor and weapons wrong?

The only stryker kind of stuff I've heard is like the (crap what's her name!?!) the chick from the mechanical brigade who'se convoy was attacked at the beginning of the war and she was captured and later rescued. Yeah, that mechanical convoy where using Strykers.

So if the stryker is pretty much rear-line only then it seems very suited for its job.

But the question is... is it?
March 3rd, 2005  
Originally Posted by Whispering Death
The styker seems better to me than the M113 but not as effective as an M2/M3
Depends on what you want to do. The Stryker can go a lot faster than the Bradley. The Bradley has better protection. Both are APC's, aphibious and have variant weapons configurations suited for different circumstances.