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December 15th, 2012  
BritinBritain
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS

Begin hung those British Soldiers? Is that a lie or can you give a link to that fact? BTW did you know that those two violated British orders?
http://rense.com/general81/tedp.htm

British sergeants hanged, July 12, 1947. Begin, Shamir, and Haganah authorized kidnapping and hanging of two British sergeants, booby trapping their bodies and mining the area. During this time, Shamir sent many letters and package bombs to British officials. 1947 also included multiple cases of kidnappings (including brutal floggings of British soldiers) by Jewish terrorists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Begin

Under Beginís leadership, the Irgun continued to carry out operations such as breaking into Acre Prison, and the kidnapping and hanging of two British sergeants in order to prevent, and then in retaliation to, the execution of several Irgun members by the British

Sergeants Martin and Paice were at a cafe in civilian clothes, were unarmed, were outside their camp at a forbidden time and were not part of a group of four, as required by standing orders at the time.

They didn't violate anything, they ignored standing orders which is different.

The first man to be hanged asked if he could write a message to his family, but was told that there was no time. They refused a man his last wish to write to his family, it just shows what low life's the Zionists are.
December 15th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
Because whatever it was, it has absolutely no bearing on what happened here.
Even if this two particular correspondents had assaulted the troops concerned (which I couldn't imagine) there would till be no justification for this deliberate act of thuggery.
You dare not.

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It was in fact no more than another attempt by Israel to intimidate any likely witnesses to their crimes against humanity. does this sound familiar?
No because the SA was above the law, the IDF isn't.

BTW Palestinian police :Rights group: investigate Palestinian police abuse
"Activists charge that beatings and torture by Palestinian security agencies are common."
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
http://rense.com/general81/tedp.htm

British sergeants hanged, July 12, 1947. Begin, Shamir, and Haganah authorized kidnapping and hanging of two British sergeants, booby trapping their bodies and mining the area. During this time, Shamir sent many letters and package bombs to British officials. 1947 also included multiple cases of kidnappings (including brutal floggings of British soldiers) by Jewish terrorists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Begin

Under Beginís leadership, the Irgun continued to carry out operations such as breaking into Acre Prison, and the kidnapping and hanging of two British sergeants in order to prevent, and then in retaliation to, the execution of several Irgun members by the British

Sergeants Martin and Paice were at a cafe in civilian clothes, were unarmed, were outside their camp at a forbidden time and were not part of a group of four, as required by standing orders at the time.

They didn't violate anything, they ignored standing orders which is different.

The first man to be hanged asked if he could write a message to his family, but was told that there was no time. They refused a man his last wish to write to his family, it just shows what low life's the Zionists are.
This is a very sad story, which was debated before. The killing was done by the Irgun, not Haganah (who disliked what happend and only gave intelligence). The reason for the kidnapping was to get their comrades free, just like Hamas kidnapped Shalit. The British went on with the execution, Israel released about a thousand Palestinian prisoners, all with worse crimes as the Irgun ones. Shalit stayed alive, the British were hanged. Merely a year later the British left.

Was it all worth it? 5 people hanged because three were caught armed after the Prison attack. No British soldiers were killed in that attack.

Did you know that one of the Sergeants was a Jew?
December 15th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
You dare not.
WTF are you talking about? I dare not what??
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
No because the SA was above the law, the IDF isn't.
They are above the law. Firstly quote me a source where a German Law clearly states that the SA were above the law? See, two can play your stupid game.

Then list the IDF members serving a life sentences for any of the multitude of War crimes committed by them. They enjoy the same tacit protection from the Law as the SA did and are just as big a thugs.
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December 16th, 2012  
BritinBritain
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
This is a very sad story, which was debated before. The killing was done by the Irgun, not Haganah (who disliked what happend and only gave intelligence). The reason for the kidnapping was to get their comrades free, just like Hamas kidnapped Shalit. The British went on with the execution, Israel released about a thousand Palestinian prisoners, all with worse crimes as the Irgun ones. Shalit stayed alive, the British were hanged. Merely a year later the British left.
The British Sergeants were hanged on orders from Begin.

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
Was it all worth it? 5 people hanged because three were caught armed after the Prison attack. No British soldiers were killed in that attack.
So what no British soldiers were killed in the attack, it wasn't for lack of trying. Do you expect the British authorities to say, "Now don't be a naughty boy again," and smack his wrist?

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
Did you know that one of the Sergeants was a Jew?
I don't care if he was from Stamford Hill or Tel Aviv, the bloke was unarmed and murdered by vicious scumbag Zionists. And what filth mines an area and booby traps the bodies?
December 16th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
They are above the law. Firstly quote me a source where a German Law clearly states that the SA were above the law? See, two can play your stupid game.
A contradiction of an enormous magnitude. A law can impossible have a law that stands above itself. The SA could do things unpunished until a rival punished them. The IDF cannot do that.

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Then list the IDF members serving a life sentences for any of the multitude of War crimes committed by them. They enjoy the same tacit protection from the Law as the SA did and are just as big a thugs.
That's not possible and you know it. No IDF member has committed war crimes. You cannot convict someone for something he didn't do. Not one IDF member was accused, let alone convicted, by a court that has the authority to punish such crimes. Not one of your sources has that authority and all of them just "claim" not prove.

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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
The British Sergeants were hanged on orders from Begin.
True. In his memoirs he wrote that that was his most difficult decision. He should have chosen otherwise and the British should have traded the prisoners.

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So what no British soldiers were killed in the attack, it wasn't for lack of trying. Do you expect the British authorities to say, "Now don't be a naughty boy again," and smack his wrist?
No, but there's a difference between trying and actually committing. Rule of law makes that difference.

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I don't care if he was from Stamford Hill or Tel Aviv, the bloke was unarmed and murdered by vicious scumbag Zionists. And what filth mines an area and booby traps the bodies?
I agree with you that they shouldn't have done that. The Irgun was not liked by many.

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I forgot to reply on your mixed up photo's. It is nice to see Palestinians desperately trying to assist the IDF soldiers, unfortunately they had orders to do it themselves

Just kidding, here's the truth : Protesters are forced back by Israeli security force officers as they try to breach the controversial Israeli barrier during clashes at a protest against the barrier in the West Bank village of Bilin near Ramallah April 22, 2011. REUTERS/Mohamad Torokman

Not Gaza, sorry.
December 16th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
A contradiction of an enormous magnitude. A law can impossible have a law that stands above itself. The SA could do things unpunished until a rival punished them. The IDF cannot do that.
They do and it is just that no rival is yet in a position to do that as yet. Something that may change now that Palestine is officially recognised by the UN.

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Originally Posted by VDKMS
That's not possible and you know it.
Of course it's not possible, as every "Investigation" held by Israel is only a whitewash. It is like asking Heinrich himmler to pass judgment on his thugs. Most (if not all) of these "investigations" would never have even happened had it not been for International outcry at Israel's thuggery.

C'mon VD I shouldn't have even answered these stupid statements of yours, as I stated I'd only answer your new lies, and this is as old as dirt.
December 17th, 2012  
Yossarian
 
 
Every immorality pointed out here, just has an opposing party pick the other side of the line and say "they do it to!" Like a child looking for justification for a misdeed.

And here we are now, justifying misdeeds.

The past 60 years of lockup of negotiations now makes a lot more sense...
December 18th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
They do and it is just that no rival is yet in a position to do that as yet. Something that may change now that Palestine is officially recognised by the UN.
Palestine is not yet officially recognised by the UN. Only the UN counsil can do that.

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Of course it's not possible, as every "Investigation" held by Israel is only a whitewash. It is like asking Heinrich himmler to pass judgment on his thugs. Most (if not all) of these "investigations" would never have even happened had it not been for International outcry at Israel's thuggery.
At least they investigate, hamas does no investigations at all, on the contrary, they are celebrated.

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C'mon VD I shouldn't have even answered these stupid statements of yours, as I stated I'd only answer your new lies, and this is as old as dirt.
Then why did you answer it? Because you only want to deny the truth?
December 18th, 2012  
senojekips
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
Palestine is not yet officially recognised by the UN. Only the UN counsil can do that.

At least they investigate, hamas does no investigations at all, on the contrary, they are celebrated.
So you admit that Israel lies about having investigations whereas the Palestinians don't bother lying? You forget that Israel is the aggressor and therefore can't complain about measures found necessary to resist their crimes.
December 18th, 2012  
ScarabVenom
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
That's not possible and you know it. No IDF member has committed war crimes.
Are you sure about that? If so, please explain the Bahr El-Baqar massacre committed by the IAF during 1970. Israelis claim that they thought the school was a military installment. In reality, yes it was a primary school, the school was completely destroyed with 46 children dead and about 60 wounded. Not a war crime? That's one out of many crimes done by them.
 


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