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April 18th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
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Originally Posted by Kozzy Mozzy

I think you need to calm down.
I am really relaxed. What do you think of HAAPAR?
April 18th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Last line third paragraph of that quote:

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Thus there is no evidence of a causal connection between the nuclear testing and the large earthquake in Afghanistan and it is pure coincidence that they occurred near in time and location.
April 18th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
I have been reading some articles and there is no agreement concerning this issue. Some scients says that a nuke could trigger a quake.
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April 19th, 2005  
Kozzy Mozzy
 
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Originally Posted by staurofilakes
I have been reading some articles and there is no agreement concerning this issue. Some scients says that a nuke could trigger a quake.
And this has what to do with scalar weapons?

This whole nuke triggering quake thing is nonsense. You can do so much more damage detonating it over your target.
April 19th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kozzy Mozzy
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Originally Posted by staurofilakes
I have been reading some articles and there is no agreement concerning this issue. Some scients says that a nuke could trigger a quake.
And this has what to do with scalar weapons?

This whole nuke triggering quake thing is nonsense. You can do so much more damage detonating it over your target.
Yes, I have to agree with you, that will be lots more dangerous, and you are right it has nothing to do with Scalar weapons, but I think that the HAARP proyect has a lot to do with it. Did you read about HAARP?

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The military says the HAARP system could:
-give the military a tool to replace the electromagnetic pulse effect of atmospheric thermonuclear devices (still considered a viable option by the military through at least 1986).

-replace the huge Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) submarine communication system operating in Michigan and Wisconsin with a new and more compact technology.

-Be used to replace the over-the-horizon radar system that was once planned for the current location of HAARP, with a more flexible and accurate system.

-provide a way to wipe out communications over an extremely large area, while keeping the military's own communications systems working.
provide a wide area earth-penetrating tomography which, if combined with the computing abilities of EMASS and Cray computers, would make it possible to verify many parts of nuclear nonproliferation and peace agreements.

-be a tool for geophysical probing to find oil, gas and mineral deposits over a large area.

-be used to detect incoming low-level planes and cruise missiles, making other technologies obsolete.


HAARP-Type Technology Could Perform A Variety Of Tricks
HAARP is intended to heat and lift a portion of the ionosphere above a selected location or locations on the planet in order to make a huge invisible "mirror" for bouncing electromagnetic radiation back to the surface of Earth. Why? The answer is that the U.S. military wants to:

communicate with its submerged submarines by penetrating the oceans with ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) radiations.
penetrate the land with ELF in order to search for hidden tunnels or other sites of military interest (a process known as earth-penetrating tomography).
What else could a HAARP-type project do in the near future? If the technology is scaled up in size, it could:

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Dr. Nick Begich of Anchorage, Alaska,
and Jeane Manning of Vancouver, British Columbia, said:


HAARP is intended to heat and lift a portion of the ionosphere above a selected location or locations on the planet in order to make a huge invisible "mirror" for bouncing electromagnetic radiation back to the surface of Earth. Why? The answer is that the U.S. military wants to:

communicate with its submerged submarines by penetrating the oceans with ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) radiations.
penetrate the land with ELF in order to search for hidden tunnels or other sites of military interest (a process known as earth-penetrating tomography).
What else could a HAARP-type project do in the near future? If the technology is scaled up in size, it could:

-Shield a territory from intercontinental ballistic missiles

-Fry satellites

-Discriminate between incoming objects (missiles)

-Enhance communications

-Disrupt communications over a large area of the globe

-Change the chemical structure of the upper atmosphere and possibly alter the weather

-Affect human mental functioning

-Impact the health of humans and other biological systems.
http://www.earthpulse.com/haarp/
April 19th, 2005  
Kozzy Mozzy
 
It looks like defensive technology to me.
April 19th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Yes, the firs quote it is, but some studies says that the developing of this technology will take us to quote #2:



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-Change the chemical structure of the upper atmosphere and possibly alter the weather

-Affect human mental functioning

-Impact the health of humans and other biological systems.
This is more agressive than defensive. On thing is for sure, the militar techno in weaponery have been developing a lot in the last decades, and I am pretty sure that there are a lot of new toys ready to be used in case of extreme necessity. This could open the "pandora box"....I am not very sure if playing with the weather is the most intelligent thing right now.
April 19th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
And it's so far gone in the "wild and looney" catagory that it's actually taught to students in Australia as a case in point for misinformation on the web. Checkout this article:

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

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Developing Approaches to Deal with Misinformation: The first step in helping students deal with misinformation is to alert them to the possible multiple interpretations that can exist on the Web. One useful way that the author has used is to introduce students to the web pages dealing with the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP). There are a wide range of web sites that relate to this project, including the official HAARP site that provides details of the project and its purposes (HAARP home page). Accessing just this site would suggest that it is an interesting American scientific program involved with ionospheric research, with web-cam images of the antenna systems available. However, further searches will reveal pages relating to weather control, mind control, damage to the upper atmosphere, the Strategic Defence Initiative, early work by Tesla in beam energy and links to crashed flying saucers. The spectrum of interpretation therefore goes from beneficial and benign research through to ‘messing with mother earth’ (Manning J and Begich N, 2002). Much of the linking material, for example key players in the project, links to previous beam weapon work, Tesla, patents etc, appears to be genuine but at some point on the spectrum students will decide that it has reached the ‘science fiction’ level and the ideas are not credible. This point will vary from student to student. Interestingly this material is also useful for introducing students to semiotics as the official site has a fluttering American flag and the ‘science fiction’ end has the dark eyed, large headed alien. Once students recognize the difficulties of dealing with this range of information, and in the way it is presented, in a reasonably ‘fun’ way they are more motivated to search for contradictions to other materials that they locate on the web. Once students have been alerted to the prevalence of potential misinformation, they need to be provided with some tools to help them deal with critical evaluation in an organized way.
April 19th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
You are right Charge, there is a lot of crap in the web, but you can also find it in TV & newspapers.

Anyway, I wonder why is US Army involved in the proyect if there is not any army use concerning this technology. usually in every country when the army is involved is because they are interested in some of the new developings. I might be wrong, will see it in the nearly future

Probably if 10 years ago i would have said that US Army will have laser weapons in his AC-130 you would have said that I just went nuts, but right now you have the AC-X, "Son of Spectre". And this is not science-fiction.

http://www.boeing.com/special/abl/sc...ilestones.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...craft/ac-x.htm
April 19th, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Here there is another really interesting link, i did not know that this technology was so developed.

With this topic I am not saying that US has a weapon that can change climate or somethig similar, I just gived links, do not misanderstand me.

I am just trying expose how militar techno have been developing in the last decades...and we do not know what are doing right now...all this things are confidential...one thing is for sure,the science advance with an incredible speed....


http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/...abl/flash.html

(Just Like in Star Wars!)