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September 20th, 2010  
Prapor
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthy!
They still get the job done, and there is no doubt in my mind that they are definitely the most physically trained of any special forces. They do a lot of crazy crap in their training, thats for sure.
Russian special forces, not just Specnaz, but, for example, VDV Airborne Troops, Paratroopers, where I served, have a 'test of endurance'.

Imagine: you are standing at a sink, in the washroom, maybe washing your hands, looking in the mirror. Three guys come in, suddenly jump you and start beating the hell out of you, just smashing you, with fists and legs. You have to fight back, and most importantly, stay on your feet a certain time (5-10 minutes for Paratroopers depending on experience). In the end, you are all bloodied, smiling, shake your hands, clap each other on the back, and go your ways Later you learn if you passed. If not, you will have to, well, retake the test.
September 21st, 2010  
Shah
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prapor
Russian special forces, not just Specnaz, but, for example, VDV Airborne Troops, Paratroopers, where I served, have a 'test of endurance'.

Imagine: you are standing at a sink, in the washroom, maybe washing your hands, looking in the mirror. Three guys come in, suddenly jump you and start beating the hell out of you, just smashing you, with fists and legs. You have to fight back, and most importantly, stay on your feet a certain time (5-10 minutes for Paratroopers depending on experience). In the end, you are all bloodied, smiling, shake your hands, clap each other on the back, and go your ways Later you learn if you passed. If not, you will have to, well, retake the test.
Sounds harsh.

Is this kind of thing common in other armies around the world?
September 21st, 2010  
AussieNick
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shah
Sounds harsh.

Is this kind of thing common in other armies around the world?
It can be to various different levels. But that kind of thing is rather an extreme version. I doubt the validity of the claim too. 10 minutes of being beaten by multiple assailant and staying on your feet?

The British Para's and NZ SAS milling is only 60 seconds. Australian MSD is as long as it takes, be it 10 seconds or 2 minutes.

I think the claim is one of those things brags that just are stupid.
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September 21st, 2010  
Prapor
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieNick
It can be to various different levels. But that kind of thing is rather an extreme version. I doubt the validity of the claim too. 10 minutes of being beaten by multiple assailant and staying on your feet?

The British Para's and NZ SAS milling is only 60 seconds. Australian MSD is as long as it takes, be it 10 seconds or 2 minutes.

I think the claim is one of those things brags that just are stupid.
Not bragging. Mate, I had my nose broken three times. It's all crooked to the right now, because it did not grow back together properly after the last 'test'.

It's what they do, turn you into some superman. Back in 2006, I will find the article and translate it for you, 6 of our Paratroopers were on vacation in the Crimea, got into a bar brawl with about 30 local hooligans, one of whom had a knife. They killed the one with the knife, stabbed him after taking the knife from him; stabbed and killed another one with same knife; threw one out of the window; beat several to the point they could not walk for a week after that; and had the others running out the door screaming for help by the time the police showed up.

Trust me, we can last for 10 minutes. I'll tell you the secret for it too: don't take every blow. Dodge once in awhile.
September 22nd, 2010  
AussieNick
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prapor
Not bragging. Mate, I had my nose broken three times. It's all crooked to the right now, because it did not grow back together properly after the last 'test'.

It's what they do, turn you into some superman. Back in 2006, I will find the article and translate it for you, 6 of our Paratroopers were on vacation in the Crimea, got into a bar brawl with about 30 local hooligans, one of whom had a knife. They killed the one with the knife, stabbed him after taking the knife from him; stabbed and killed another one with same knife; threw one out of the window; beat several to the point they could not walk for a week after that; and had the others running out the door screaming for help by the time the police showed up.

Trust me, we can last for 10 minutes. I'll tell you the secret for it too: don't take every blow. Dodge once in awhile.
Righto then.
September 27th, 2010  
Warwick
 
This almost rates as a 'boozer' tale Nick............
September 27th, 2010  
Big_Z
 
 
I survived a 15 minute Nunchuck beating at phase two of Ninja School. True story.
September 27th, 2010  
AussieNick
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Warwick
This almost rates as a 'boozer' tale Nick............
It's awesome! I'm going to tell the Brigade S7 about this at the next conference and see if we can have it introduced into individual training.
September 27th, 2010  
Prapor
 
 
2009 Airborne Troops Day, Moscow police and paramilitary forces prepare to maintain order (read: deal with tens of thousands of drunken Paratroopers)



Yes, they need AKs and armoured personnel carriers

Oh, and here is the Crimea story (very biased article, but only one in English I could find, I am too lazy right now to translate the Russian ones).
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tatar-l/message/9332?l=1

But here is an exerpt, there are at least another two Russian posters here, on this site, they will say if I mistranslate I am sure

Quote:
Мы стали домой уходить. И по дороге домой нас еще четыре раза догоняли. Человек семь-восемь «прыгнут», мы отобьемся, дальше идем. Опять догонят, по шее получат и снова разбегаются. Каждая стычка - секунд по 40 - 60. В последний раз их уже было около 25 человек. Нас осталось только четверо. На этот раз татары были с монтировками и ножами.

Выхватив у одного из нападавших железный прут, Павел Кисляков увидел, как на Александра Кирьянова надвигаются с ножом. Моментально среагировав, курсант выбивает монтировкой нож.
'We started to leave to go home. On the way, they tried to catch us again, four times. 7-8 people would try to 'jump' us, we'd fight them off and keep walking. Again they'd catch up, get beaten back, and run. Each scuffle lasted 40-60 seconds. Last time there was maybe 25 of them, and 4 of us. And this time they had hammers and knives.

Having taken away a steel bar from an attacker, Pavel Kislyakov saw that one was moving upon Aleksandr Kirianov with a knife. Reacting momentarily, the cadet smashes the knife away with the metal bar.'

How Ryazan Paratroopers beat up Crimean Tatars
http://www.kp.ru/daily/23780/57887/

Not fiction, it is our life, man. Now that I think about it, those Israeli commandos who landed on the Turkish ship, they should read this, and learn from it.
September 28th, 2010  
SigJohnson
 
 
looks like basic training to me!
 


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