I've shot an M-14 before and it was very accurate, but yes it was kinda heavy. I must say though it didn't have lots of kickback, it just had a lot of barrel raise. I can only amagine full-auto, talk about an AA gun. LOL

Originally Posted by ozmilman

Heh, yeah i knew that one dude, but i doubt that the Americans are gonna use weapons designed in Austria as their standard issue assault rifle. They always go for ones that are designed and made at home.

Steyr's are bloody awesome though aren't they! How much would they cost each?

Rich.

Interstingly, they did consider the Steyr ACR to become the US next primary assault rifle, which to my knowledge wasn't even considered by the Austrian Army.

new firearm in 6.5mm grendel for the win

Originally Posted by Mohmar Deathstrike

Interstingly, they did consider the Steyr ACR to become the US next primary assault rifle, which to my knowledge wasn't even considered by the Austrian Army.

The HK G11 was also in the ACR contest. The small bullets are either of them would have shitty material penetration

Originally Posted by CanadianCombat

I've shot an M-14 before and it was very accurate, but yes it was kinda heavy. I must say though it didn't have lots of kickback, it just had a lot of barrel raise. I can only amagine full-auto, talk about an AA gun. LOL

Yes, wonderful sport shooting rifle too. I'd use it anyday.

Originally Posted by Koz

The HK G11 was also in the ACR contest. The small bullets are either of them would have shitty material penetration

Actually the g11 can fire 4.73mm if im correct at more than 3000 feet per second, it also has better penetration than a 5.56. also a 540 mm barrel.

G11 fires 3 round bursts, as a rate of 1100rpm. so you can shot a guy in the head 3 time without him ever knowing whats going on.

it also has a 45 round mag (2 can be put on the gun). the mag is quite small and much lighter, and you can carry many times as much in wieght compared to the 5.56.

Originally Posted by Obvious

Actually the g11 can fire 4.73mm if im correct at more than 3000 feet per second, it also has better penetration than a 5.56. also a 540 mm barrel.

G11 fires 3 round bursts, as a rate of 1100rpm. so you can shot a guy in the head 3 time without him ever knowing whats going on.

it also has a 45 round mag (2 can be put on the gun). the mag is quite small and much lighter, and you can carry many times as much in wieght compared to the 5.56.

So what happens when the caseless ammo gets wet?

Where's Luis, we need a small arms man to discern this one.

I don't know anything about the G11 and I don't like the G3 at all.

Why not try the FM F2000? Heard it is a good gun? And I heard the Us are going to replace with the OICW!