Phoneix Missle

Rabs

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I know this is a long range missle and capable of insane speeds, I would think that all US fighers should be able to carry this weapon. From what ive read though only the F-14 Tomcat does.

My question being why arent all our fighters equipped with ultra long range missles, instead of the medium ranged AMMRAM? Is it a compatblity issue or a performance issue i havent thought of or what?
 
from what i understand the Phoenix was designed for the VERY powerful RADAR in the Tomcat.

it's also a very big, very heavy missile. and old now. last i heard the navy was having trouble with the rocket nozzles and cracked housings etc due to their age.

all that suggests that onle maybe the F-15 would be capaple of carrying it (???)

The AIM-54 Phoenix was a long-range air-to-air missile, carried in clusters of up to six missiles on the F-14 Tomcat, the only aircraft capable of carrying it.

The Phoenix missile was the US Navy's only long-range air-to-air missile. It is an airborne weapons control system with multiple-target handling capabilities, used to kill multiple air targets with conventional warheads. Near simultaneous launch is possible against up to six targets in all weather and heavy jamming environments. The improved Phoenix, the AIM-54C, was developed to better counter projected threats from tactical aircraft and cruise missiles.

The AIM-54 Phoenix was retired from USN service on 30 September 2004

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-54 (heaps more info here)
 
The AIM-54 was designed specifcally for the F-14. Although I believe the F/A-18 has been modified to carry it.

The Phoenix primary mission is Fleet Defence, To engage Long Range Soviet Bombers such as the Backfire or Bear aircraft before they get in cruise missile range. This threat is less and less of a danger. unfortunatly It not the ideal weapon to use against nimbler single engine aircraft. The USN and USAAF have begun discarding the Phoneix and the AIM-7 Sparrow in favour for the AIM-120 AMRAAM.
 
The AIM-54 Phoenix Long-range air-to-air missile, carried in clusters of up to six missiles on the F-14 Tomcat. The Phoenix missile is the Navy's only long-range air-to-air missile. It is an airborne weapons control system with multiple-target handling capabilities, used to kill multiple air targets with conventional warheads. The weapon system consists of an AIM-54 guided missile, interface system, and a launch aircraft with an AN/AWG-9 weapon control system. The AIM-54 is a radar-guided, air-to-air, long-range missile consisting of a guidance, armament, propulsion, and control section, interconnecting cables, wings and fins. The total weapon system has the capability to launch as many as six AIM-54 missiles simultaneously from the F-14 aircraft against an equal number of targets in all weather and heavy jamming environments.
The AIM-54 Phoenix Missile was developed in the 1970s as the principle long-range, air-to-air, defense armament of the F-14 Aircraft. The AIM-54 Phoenix Missile is a fielded weapon currently in Phase III, the Production, Fielding/Deployment, and Operational Support Phase of the Weapon System Acquisition Process.

The three versions of the AIM-54 Phoenix Missile currently being used are the AIM-54A, AIM-54C, and the AIM-54 ECCM/Sealed. The AIM-54 is a radar-guided, air-to-air, long-range missile consisting of a guidance, armament, propulsion, and control section, interconnecting cables, wings and fins. The AIM-54A was the original version to become operational. The improved Phoenix, the AIM-54C, can better counter projected threats from tactical aircraft and cruise missiles. The AIM-54C (sealed) missile is the most recent version and contains improved electronic counter-countermeasure capabilities and does not require coolant conditioning during captive flight. The AIM-54C and AIM-54C (sealed) contains built-in self test and additional missile on-aircraft test capability. The AIM-54C missile has also been designed for greater reliability, longer serviceable in-service time, and a 15 percent reduction in parts.

Initial Operating Capability was attained in 1974 for the AIM-54A, 1986 for the AIM-54C, and 1988 for the AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed. The AIM-54C and AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed are replacing the AIM-54A. As AIM-54A inventories are depleted they will not be replenished. The AIM-54A Technical Evaluation (TECHEVAL) was completed in November 1973. Operational Evaluation (OPEVAL) was completed in November 1974. The AIM-54C TECHEVAL began in May 1982 and was completed in November 1982. The OPEVAL began in March 1983 and was completed in August 1983. AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed Missile TECHEVAL was completed in June 1985, and OPEVAL was completed in July 1988.


The AIM-54 Phoenix Missile, used exclusively on the F-14A/B/D Aircraft, is a radar guided, air-to-air missile consisting of a guidance section, armament section, propulsion section, control section, interconnecting surface cables, wings, and fins. The missile is designed for ejection launch using the LAU-93 or LAU-132 launchers. Semi-active and active homing radar and hydraulically operated fins direct and stabilize the missile on course to the target. Propulsion is provided by a solid propellant rocket motor, and lethality by a high explosive warhead. Performance modifications to the AIM-54A were incorporated during and after production. The Reject Image Device (RID), High Altitude Performance (HAP), and Extended Active Gate (EAG) were incorporated during production. The MK 11 MOD 3 Electronics Assembly (EA) modification was installed by retrofit after production. The AIM-54C and AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed Missile have a Built In Self Test (BIST) feature. BIST may be selected in conjunction with Missile On Aircraft Test (MOAT). The AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed Missile provides two major improvements over the AIM-54C. ECCM provides enhanced electronic protection and sealing the missile eliminates the requirement for aircraft supplied liquid thermal conditioning fluid during captive flight.



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The Standard surface to air missile is actually a version of the Phoenix.

But the Phoenix... it's retired now..

:?
 
SAINT said:
The Standard surface to air missile is actually a version of the Phoenix.

But the Phoenix... it's retired now..

:?

the USN retired it in September 2004. The whole F14 fleet will no longer be in service by 2010
 
Speaking of which, I'm curious about something.

The current F-14 Squadrons are being either deactivated or retrained on the F/A-18E Super Hornet. The F-14 is a two seater, but the F/A-18E is a single seater. So whats happening to all those F-14 RIO officiers?
 
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