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December 27th, 2015  
lljadw
 
First you should buy new glasses,because I did not talk about guilty but about responsability,which is not the same .

Second : now I am certain that you are a relative of Woodrow Wilson,because you are radiating the same parochialism, the same arrogant naivity and the same naive arrogance .

In a discussion about immigration in Europe you use as argument that immigration made the US great . Something which is totally irrelevant :Japan has no immigration and is also great .

You are like a blind young cat : you are unable to recognize danger.And danger is galopping to the US .

You are unable to understand that there are a lot of people who hate the US and that you can't buy love or respect :the Palestinians have received $billions but are still as much hostile to the US .

You are convinced that the US are a beacon of freedom and liberty for the world,something that is irrelevant, because the world does not want freedom and liberty and is hostile to the American ideals and the American way of live ;and imposing your ideals and your way of live on the world in only increasing hostility . But that,you never will admit,because you believe what the Founding Fathers have written : that it is self-evident that .....etc,etc,something that in the rest of the world is regaled with jeers .

Americans have a lot of qualities, but realism is not one of these .Although the eyes are opening of a lot of people in the US which explains the success of Trump .

The future does not belong to the do-gooders but to those with a big gun .And the optimistic belief that democracy always will win will very soon collaps as a house of cards .Auschwitz,terrorism/immigration and ISIS are proving that there is no place for optimism .
January 1st, 2016  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
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Originally Posted by lljadw
First you should buy new glasses,because I did not talk about guilty but about responsability,which is not the same .

Second : now I am certain that you are a relative of Woodrow Wilson,because you are radiating the same parochialism, the same arrogant naivity and the same naive arrogance .

In a discussion about immigration in Europe you use as argument that immigration made the US great . Something which is totally irrelevant :Japan has no immigration and is also great .

You are like a blind young cat : you are unable to recognize danger.And danger is galopping to the US .

You are unable to understand that there are a lot of people who hate the US and that you can't buy love or respect :the Palestinians have received $billions but are still as much hostile to the US .

You are convinced that the US are a beacon of freedom and liberty for the world,something that is irrelevant, because the world does not want freedom and liberty and is hostile to the American ideals and the American way of live ;and imposing your ideals and your way of live on the world in only increasing hostility . But that,you never will admit,because you believe what the Founding Fathers have written : that it is self-evident that .....etc,etc,something that in the rest of the world is regaled with jeers .

Americans have a lot of qualities, but realism is not one of these .Although the eyes are opening of a lot of people in the US which explains the success of Trump .

The future does not belong to the do-gooders but to those with a big gun .And the optimistic belief that democracy always will win will very soon collaps as a house of cards .Auschwitz,terrorism/immigration and ISIS are proving that there is no place for optimism .
Yes, you do. You are accusing all Muslims for what a few do. Do you know what realism is? Is it the Waltz Neo-Realism or even Morgenthau's perception of Realism you are talking about. I give you something, I don't completely agree with the US foreign policy, but they are very liberal in their mind frame. You need to take a closer look at what liberalism and what conservationism are and figure out where you belong
January 1st, 2016  
JOC
 
 
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Originally Posted by lljadw
The future does not belong to the do-gooders but to those with a big gun.
The day the future does not belong to those who are at least trying to do good is a very sorry day indeed.
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Boots
January 1st, 2016  
lljadw
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JOC
The day the future does not belong to those who are at least trying to do good is a very sorry day indeed.

This post proves the unwillingness of liberals especially in the US to acknowledge the truth : since 1945 millions have been murdered (proving that mankind has not improved and never will improve)by communism and ,indirectly,by its successor :liberalism .

These two totalitarian ideologies want to change society to create a heaven on earth,at all costs,and we know what the result is of a heaven on earth : hell .

They are supported by those who voluntarily chose the Dark Side, by those who remain indifferent, by those who argue :Befehl ist Befehl ,by those who want power,by those who arrogantly want to change the world and impose their ideology upon all of us .

All these people do commit crimes,excuse crimes,make crimes possible,not because they are poor (as claim marxists and liberals) but because they prefer evil, voluntarily .

But this ,liberals never will accept,because they deny the existence of evil and prefer to blame society .After Auschwitz, a new Holocaust is loming .

Nazi Germani was destroyed not by do gooders,but by people with big guns who killed millions of Germans .

The only possibility to survive is to give up liberal democracy (a contradiction in terminis,because liberalism is anti-democratic) ,to have big guns,to use them against domestic and foreign enemies,and,for the rest not to intervene ,not to intervene when Sunni and Shia are killing each other ,and ...not to say that the world can not exist half free/half slave(people always will prefer dictatorship to democracy) and to intervene abroad,only when our interests are threatened .

This means for the ME :

help Assad against ISIS, help SA against Iran, help Israel against the Muslims .
January 1st, 2016  
JOC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
This post proves the unwillingness of liberals especially in the US to acknowledge the truth : since 1945 millions have been murdered (proving that mankind has not improved and never will improve)by communism and ,indirectly,by its successor :liberalism .

These two totalitarian ideologies want to change society to create a heaven on earth,at all costs,and we know what the result is of a heaven on earth : hell .

They are supported by those who voluntarily chose the Dark Side, by those who remain indifferent, by those who argue :Befehl ist Befehl ,by those who want power,by those who arrogantly want to change the world and impose their ideology upon all of us .

All these people do commit crimes,excuse crimes,make crimes possible,not because they are poor (as claim marxists and liberals) but because they prefer evil, voluntarily .

But this ,liberals never will accept,because they deny the existence of evil and prefer to blame society .After Auschwitz, a new Holocaust is loming .

Nazi Germani was destroyed not by do gooders,but by people with big guns who killed millions of Germans .

The only possibility to survive is to give up liberal democracy (a contradiction in terminis,because liberalism is anti-democratic) ,to have big guns,to use them against domestic and foreign enemies,and,for the rest not to intervene ,not to intervene when Sunni and Shia are killing each other ,and ...not to say that the world can not exist half free/half slave(people always will prefer dictatorship to democracy) and to intervene abroad,only when our interests are threatened .

This means for the ME :

help Assad against ISIS, help SA against Iran, help Israel against the Muslims .
Wars will continue “to quote the Bible nations will rise up against nations”. In the case of Nazi Germany the combined forces the US, USSR and British Common Wealth defeated the bad “Nazi Germany”.

The US have has had wars under both liberal and conservative administrations. I don’t know what all this to do about the evils of liberals is about, not that I want to start another rant. I myself lean towards the conservatives on many issues. What we must be against is extremism of any kind.

I say give democracy a chance when possible. At times extremist_terrorist_criminal regimes take_have power with the common man having little say in the matter. Democracy never has a chance to get rooted. In some cases such as Egypt the military coup over the Muslim brotherhood was the best thing that happened to the country and now enjoys popular support. One can’t lump countries together just as one can’t lump people together.
January 1st, 2016  
lljadw
 
"what we must be against is extremism of any kind"

Question : WHY ?
January 1st, 2016  
lljadw
 
" I say :give democracy a chance when possible "

Question : WHY?


I say : do not impose democracy ,do not impose your own political system .
January 2nd, 2016  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
" I say :give democracy a chance when possible "

Question : WHY?


I say : do not impose democracy ,do not impose your own political system .

Is it Ok according to you if they want the Swiss system and not the American one?
January 2nd, 2016  
lljadw
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by I3BrigPvSk
Is it Ok according to you if they want the Swiss system and not the American one?
it is not a question of Swiss or American system, but that we should not intervene abroad to impose our system : it will not work .

Exemple : the EU has condemned the executions in SA . WHY ? Why would these executions be the business of the EU ? Why can the EU not respect the independence of SA ?

The leaders of the EU are still thinking that they live in the time of the White Man's Burden .

They don't know that this epoch has disappeared ,for good .
January 2nd, 2016  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lljadw
it is not a question of Swiss or American system, but that we should not intervene abroad to impose our system : it will not work .

Exemple : the EU has condemned the executions in SA . WHY ? Why would these executions be the business of the EU ? Why can the EU not respect the independence of SA ?

The leaders of the EU are still thinking that they live in the time of the White Man's Burden .

They don't know that this epoch has disappeared ,for good .
First you are saying it's not a question about the two different systems, but then you say there is a question of systems. You are confusing the different democratic systems that exist with human rights. You bring in EU now and all EU countries are entitled to express what they want about different matters, but you aren't a friend of freedom of speech as long as somebody is expressing something you like.

You are actually the last one to say something about living in past when the empirical evidence contradict your last comment
 


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