new wargame ideas




 
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Boots
 
March 6th, 2004  
diplomatic_means
 

Topic: new wargame ideas


This thread is for posting fun ideas for new ways to do war games. My thoughts are that someone should develop a full body kevlar suit just strong enough to stop low caliber bullets. Then we can stop playing with these wimpy airsoft guns and paintball guns and everyone uses .22s. People could manufacture look alike .22 machine guns, submachine guns etc. The best part about this idea is you no longer have to worry about distance and wind so much because they can shoot quite the range. The only hard part about this would be creating areas safe to play in Nonethless this would be more realistic than anything else out there and thus the most amount of fun. The only thing even close to this is the military's version of lasertag. Man those guns are ridiculously bulky. What do you think of my idea and what ideas do you have?
March 6th, 2004  
RnderSafe
 
 
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Nonethless this would be more realistic than anything else out there and thus the most amount of fun.
If you want realisim and to get shot at with real bullets, why not just join the military? There is nothing fun about getting shot, with a .22 or otherwise.
March 6th, 2004  
Redleg
 
 
You should try the Norwegian Army's Tactical Training center...
It will be one of the best (THE best...?) simulated combat systems in the world when it's completely up and running in 2005.

Been there last week.

Laser systems on all weapons, including tanks and APCs, portable AT systems etc...
Personal vests with GPS, so we can monitor the movement of every soldier and vehicle.
The possibility to use artillery, gas and minefields, since we know the exact possition of every "player".
You doesn't only get killed, but many different types of injuries that a medic can/must threat. (with a PDA)
And the vehicles kan get communication kills, weapon kills or total kills....
(from weapons, minefields or artillery)
There are several sensors on the vests and vehicles, so an exact hit point is calcutaled. (arm, chest, leg etc...)

Everything is monitored real time on portable computers in the field, and in the exercise control room..

It's probably the closest (and safest) you can get to actual combat...

It's produced by SAAB training systems.
You can find some of the equipment here (we have a bit more than this.. )
http://products.saab.se/PDBWeb/Gener...17&CompanyId=9
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Boots
March 6th, 2004  
diplomatic_means
 
I can imagine a .22 round would definitely hurt RnderSafe that's why we of course would have to be prepared with full body kevlar armor just heavy enough to stop point blanc .22 shots. IF someone developed those for relatively cheap this would be absolutely awesome. Not to mention you also gain a sense of the sound and smell of the battlefield. Sound and smell in a war game game can be one of the coolest parts of the game. Sound and smell is hard to reenact with lasers. I know the US laser tag simulation system is just a bunch of bulky vests and add on "laser guns" to the M4s, and all the other guns they carry then they just load blanks into the chambers. .22s are definitely the way to go.
March 6th, 2004  
Popeye
 
 
I don't know... I'm thinking it is going to be kind of hard to get a .22 war game going, and getting everyone the idea of being protected, and having a kevlar suit to stop a bullet in all places.

I agree with RnderSafe... if you want action join the military.
March 6th, 2004  
Redleg
 
 
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Originally Posted by Popeye
I don't know... I'm thinking it is going to be kind of hard to get a .22 war game going, and getting everyone the idea of being protected, and having a kevlar suit to stop a bullet in all places.

I agree with RnderSafe... if you want action join the military.
Agree with both of you...

A .22 would not be safe, unless you are completely covered in kevlar (or something similar..)
And I would never want to be shot at by a .22 (or any other caliber...).

Laser systems is the closest and safest we can get to real life combat.
And we do get both the sound and smell you want Diplomatic....

Join the military, and have fun, I do (most of the time..)
March 6th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
I got shot one time with a 20 gauge. Not as bad as it sounds, just a few bbs in the back of my shoulder, and my coat absorbed most of the impact, but even that hurt like a son of a gun. If you really want to go out and shoot your buddies, all I can say is it won't hurt the gene pool.
But seriously, a .22 long rifle won't just hurt you, granted it doesn't have the same chance of causing a fatal injury a larger caliber or higher velocity round does, but it will still do your business for you.
Anyway, even if you did have this bullet-proof suit (with kevlar over all joints and bullet-proof goggles), after a couple hits you would have to replace it, to my knowledge kevlar is not reusable.
March 6th, 2004  
Redleg
 
 
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Originally Posted by Redneck
after a couple hits you would have to replace it, to my knowledge kevlar is not reusable.
Nope, you should replace it after just one hit...
It can probably take some more hits, but I wouldn't risk it...
March 6th, 2004  
Popeye
 
 
Excellent point Redneck.... and overall I really don't think anyone would try it lol. I know I wouldn't = kevlar suit or not, you are dealing with real guns here... even tho it is a .22, 1 mistake is enough to say bye - and I don't think you would be getting any insurance or sponsors for the kevlar

You should just find a crazy friend, have him start on 1 side of the field, you on other and track each other down... if you are good enough - you'll win
March 6th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 

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Dude, 0.22 can kill! What are you frickin nuts? I mean I like you and all Diplomatic Means, but your crazier then me(and I joined a "rock fight" in which we threw rocks and oranges at each other...). I mean a M16 is 5.56 which is 0.221...Our handguns in the Civil Guard are .22s....Ouch!I mean, it might not kill you, but if it gets contact with you(and there is no such thing as perfect body suits...) your gonna scream your self to sleep....I mean OUCH! I never got shot, and Im keeping it that way..My mother shot my grandmother on mistake with an airgun, and by the stories, even that really hurts..But a .22?! What about the face?! Im in for paintball, Im in for Airsofting(though I never did airsofting) but real guns?!?!?!?!OUCH!

What Im intrested in though, is getting some vehiecles into the Painball thing...Maybe a Leopard...?Just kidding!

But really, OUCH! No, I dont like that idea at all!

Edit-Oh, and if it's a man hunt you want, get better guns then 0.22....Maybe a SPAS 12?