New Iraqi government buys Chinese arms




 
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June 22nd, 2005  
CSmaster
 

Topic: New Iraqi government buys Chinese arms


Chinese made weapons and body armors in use by the new Iraqi police and troops
The new Type 56-2 assault rifles and body armors must be from the recent 40 million USD orders placed by new Iraqi government for its police and troops. Noticing the brand new Type 56-2 rifles with its short folding stocks and cheap orange colored plastic parts. Can't complaint too much when they only paid around $100 each and got them delivered almost rightaway.

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http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyb...2211122889.jpg

type 56 is pretty much Chinese-made ak-47, it is nearly gone in regular PLA forces (they use type 81 or 95 or 97 now), and militia forces seem to use type 56 now, it is very cheap to make, and pretty reliable
June 22nd, 2005  
Macoy
 
100$ is pretty cheap i think. How much costs a M16 ?

Our actual rifle, the HK G36, costs around 600 Euro (but this price is for the german army only, export will be more expensive i think).

But why imports Iraq weapons ? I thought they have masses of weapons hidden everywhere in the country. Some months ago i saw in the news US soldiers destroying iraqi ak-47's there found somewhere in a bunker.
June 22nd, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
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Originally Posted by Macoy
100$ is pretty cheap i think. How much costs a M16 ?

Our actual rifle, the HK G36, costs around 600 Euro (but this price is for the german army only, export will be more expensive i think).

But why imports Iraq weapons ? I thought they have masses of weapons hidden everywhere in the country. Some months ago i saw in the news US soldiers destroying iraqi ak-47's there found somewhere in a bunker.
Yeah, why do coalition troops destroy weapons instead of giving them to the Iraqi Army or police? The same goes for Afghanistan.
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June 22nd, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohmar Deathstrike
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Originally Posted by Macoy
100$ is pretty cheap i think. How much costs a M16 ?

Our actual rifle, the HK G36, costs around 600 Euro (but this price is for the german army only, export will be more expensive i think).

But why imports Iraq weapons ? I thought they have masses of weapons hidden everywhere in the country. Some months ago i saw in the news US soldiers destroying iraqi ak-47's there found somewhere in a bunker.
Yeah, why do coalition troops destroy weapons instead of giving them to the Iraqi Army or police? The same goes for Afghanistan.
I guess that is lots more beneficial to sell them weapons. The profit is the profit. We all know that war is a huge business.
June 22nd, 2005  
Shadowalker
 
 
The weapons in iraq are probably of mixed quality so new weapons need to be bought in. If any insurgents get hold of these new weapons then the source should be able to be found as long as the rifles numbers and the unit who recieved the rifle are recorded. This could be more difficult if old rifles were used.
June 22nd, 2005  
CABAL
 
 

Topic: Re: New Iraqi government buys Chinese arms


Quote:
Originally Posted by CSmaster
Chinese made weapons and body armors in use by the new Iraqi police and troops
The new Type 56-2 assault rifles and body armors must be from the recent 40 million USD orders placed by new Iraqi government for its police and troops. Noticing the brand new Type 56-2 rifles with its short folding stocks and cheap orange colored plastic parts. Can't complaint too much when they only paid around $100 each and got them delivered almost rightaway.

http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyb...2221834559.jpg
http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyb...2221810511.jpg
http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyb...2211122889.jpg

type 56 is pretty much Chinese-made ak-47, it is nearly gone in regular PLA forces (they use type 81 or 95 or 97 now), and militia forces seem to use type 56 now, it is very cheap to make, and pretty reliable
$100 per piece. That kind of value is not only offered to Iraq. I've heard one of my friend's uncle has a Chinese made SSK for $100 per piece plus shipping and handling charges. Though the order was much delayed, because it had trouble getting through Custom Agents. This guy lives in the US were Guns are not outlawed.
June 22nd, 2005  
CSmaster
 
as far as i know, these type-56s are probably not manufactured recently...

i think they are retired weapons used by PLA 20 years ago, PLA probably got so many of these chinese ak-47, they just modify them a bit and sell for 100$ per piece, and deliver right away..


Chinese weapons have a reputation of being cheap for years, remember the crappy Iraqi t-55, all made in china
June 22nd, 2005  
CABAL
 
 
The Iraqi T-55 was a decent weapon during the 1980's. I don't consider it crappy. The reason it was crappy was because of the crew's handling of the vehicle since many Iraqi Tankers are very inexperienced.

Plus China is not the only country that sells most of its outmoded and retired weapons to other nations.
June 22nd, 2005  
SHERMAN
 
 
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Chinese weapons have a reputation of being cheap for years, remember the crappy Iraqi t-55, all made in china
The Type 59 is the same as the T-55, no better no worse. The Iraqis used them poorly, and against uch more modern tanks. You cant compare a tank desighned in the late 1940s to one desighned 30 years later.
June 22nd, 2005  
Shadowalker
 
 
Could be a good deal in the future for china, when iraq starts to properly re-arm they could decide to use chinese arms as there fairly cheap.