New Humvee - Page 2




 
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December 12th, 2004  
egoz
 
I just started looking at the specs of the Shadow and realised it uses a 2.5L 4V inline 4. Compared to the 6.2L V8 of the HMMWV, both of the turbo diesel. The only reason I bring it up is the towing capability. It doesn't seem like the Shadow is up to 7,000+lbs towing capability of the HMMWV. I figured if it's going to replace the HMMWV then that probably should be an issue.
December 12th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Hmmm... I guess so but when was the last time you saw a Humvee tow something?
December 12th, 2004  
egoz
 
Doesn't the Humvee sometimes tow the M119 around? I'm not sure how often that occurs but I've seen it a couple of times during convoys.
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December 12th, 2004  
SOT_II
 
That's the M1069 "Prime Mover" Humvee
December 12th, 2004  
egoz
 
well right, but there isn't that much done to the engine between models. i know the M1097 has increased the towing capacity over the older models. but the point was if you are developing a utility vehicle, like the HMMWV, you need it to do everything. just looking at the different variations of the current HMMWV proves that. all i was saying was if the Shadow is to replace the HMMWV, i think it should be able to take on the same jobs as the HMMWV. if that job could include heavy duty towing, then you might need a bigger engine. i'm seeing this as more of a recon vehicle or SF type vehicle than a utility vehicle like the HMMWV. i don't see it as a replacement at all.
December 12th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
probably replace some humvees and keep others...?
December 12th, 2004  
SOT_II
 
DId you read the articles, this is the first version...and a recon vehicle...there are more variations to come...

the First Humvee's came out in 1983...the prime mover came out about 5 years later.
It's the same development plan...come out with the base recon model, and adapt from there.

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Originally Posted by egoz
well right, but there isn't that much done to the engine between models. i know the M1097 has increased the towing capacity over the older models. but the point was if you are developing a utility vehicle, like the HMMWV, you need it to do everything. just looking at the different variations of the current HMMWV proves that. all i was saying was if the Shadow is to replace the HMMWV, i think it should be able to take on the same jobs as the HMMWV. if that job could include heavy duty towing, then you might need a bigger engine. i'm seeing this as more of a recon vehicle or SF type vehicle than a utility vehicle like the HMMWV. i don't see it as a replacement at all.
December 12th, 2004  
silent driller
 
 
I must say. The last vehicle to give me chills like that was the Cobra Gunship! That is one ass kickin' machine!
December 13th, 2004  
egoz
 
I wasn't saying this was the end all be all version for this vehicle. But if you are running a gas electric hybrid engine it's going to be limited in the amount of power it can produce. At least until the technology progresses and we develop a stronger engine. But matching the torque of a turbo diesel V8 is going to be tough using any electric engine combination.
December 13th, 2004  
SOT_II
 
The electric engines genreate more tourqe than the v8 diesel. In fact one of the larger problems with heavy duty electic engines is that anything but a military driveshaft is going to get pretty messed up.


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Originally Posted by egoz
I wasn't saying this was the end all be all version for this vehicle. But if you are running a gas electric hybrid engine it's going to be limited in the amount of power it can produce. At least until the technology progresses and we develop a stronger engine. But matching the torque of a turbo diesel V8 is going to be tough using any electric engine combination.