Most successful military commander.




 
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September 3rd, 2007  
Del Boy
 

Topic: Most successful military commander.


Who would you rate as the most successful military commander ?
September 3rd, 2007  
MontyB
 
 
I will go with the tried and true on this one and say that it is a toss up between Alexander the Great or Genghis Khan although I guess we have a choice of everyone up until WW1 so I may yet change my mind as the likes of Napoleon, Nelson and Wellington rated pretty well too.

So for Now Genghis Khan gets the nod.



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September 3rd, 2007  
Josh678
 
 
I will say Julius Caesar but if I could have up WW1 Id say Francis Marion or the Swamp Fox.
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September 3rd, 2007  
Del Boy
 
My post was aiming to put Genghis Khan up for discussion, just as Mont B has. I have noticed that he is currently being discussed historically as the most successful ever. Has the forum already been over this ground before I arrived? More later.

Yes Genghis Khan. I have long been interested in the broad brush strokes of his subjugation strategies, but I was intrigued to learn of his distinctive contribution to defence against devastating arrow showers in battle situations. Are all you warriors already familiar with his technique, or was that technique widespread but beyond my ken?

I will go into detail if necessary.
September 3rd, 2007  
LeEnfield
 
 
Genghis Khan
Julias Ceaser
Welsey
Malbourgh
September 3rd, 2007  
MontyB
 
 
One of the problems with determining the most "successful" of anything is in first determining the bounds of success required by the question.

For example is it based on the largest amount of land taken in which case Julius Caesar, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, Ogedei Khan or even Chandragupta have to be considered or is it based on those who won battles against great odds time and again such as Arthur Wellesley, Nelson etc. alternatively you have a mixture of both such as Napoleon who both captured almost all of Europe and still won battles with numerically fewer troops.
September 3rd, 2007  
Del Boy
 
I have always been struck by distinctive features of Genghis Khan strategy. Religious tolerance or indifference towards his subjugated peoples. The spurning of occupation and all the accompanying problems of such. Simply riding forth to annihilate, obliterate, any defection or insurrection. Afghanistan became a waste-land because of it's constant use as a by-pass for the Mongol hordes' forays. I believe that scattered along the routes are still to be found small buildings built of human bones, as, of course, the Mongols destroyed everything in their paths.The development of a Medical Corp! The cavalry of man and horse becoming one creature ( I have known one other group described thus - confederate militias of the American civil war).

However, in appraising the warrior, this fact really creased me. We know of the benefits of aiming to disable the enemy, rather than going for a straight kill. Torrents of arrows in battle must have been devastating to deal with.
At his siege of Bejing, we are told that ,knowingly charging at such a storm, at the forefront, pushing his artillary equipment, were his enemy prisoners. Standard practice perhaps, but what stuck in my mind was the fact that, next to their skin, he ordered that all his warriors should wear a silk shirt; when they were pierced by arrows the silk was not pierced but followed the arrow-head into the wound, making it much easier to remove the arrow! Was this thinking outside the box - or had it been previous military practice.
September 4th, 2007  
Affee
 
 
I would say Hannibal for what he did in the Alps. But yes Napoleon, Wellington and Nelson were great too.
October 29th, 2007  
awesomekid99
 
Julius Caesar probably.
October 29th, 2007  
LeEnfield
 
 
People like Napoleon, Alexandra and Hannibal although they achieved some great victories never won the war that they started. People like Cesar, Wellington and Marlborough left the battle field as complete victors.
 


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