Modern Fighter Cage Match: Final Round!




View Poll Results :Which fighter would win in a dog fight? Round 5
Eurofighter Typhoon 4 36.36%
Lockheed F-35 Joint Strike FIghter 7 63.64%
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll

 
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September 24th, 2004  
Trevor
 

Topic: Modern Fighter Cage Match: Final Round!


This is Round 5 of 5. The winner of the last round is the Eurofighter Typhoon, beating out the Dassault Rafale 5-2. THE WINNDER OF THIS ROUND GOES TO CAGE MATCH HEAVEN!!!

Alright, here it is. This is the Modern Fighter Cage Match. There will be 5 rounds. I will put up a poll with 2 fighters and you guys vote for which ever one you think would win in a dog fight. I will leave it up for two days. The winner of that round will move on to the next round to go up against another fighter. The winnder of the last round will be forever in Cage Match Heaven. ASSUME BOTH PILOTS ARE EQUALLY SKILLED.
September 24th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
So the SU-47 and the F22 aren't going to get the chance to compete??
September 24th, 2004  
Doppleganger
 
 
I can't vote for this if you're leaving out fighters that are possible winners.
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September 25th, 2004  
c/Commander
 
 
The F-35 is not in service yet and has not seen combat, so it would seem to be ineligible.
September 25th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Mig 29 and F18E HAVE seen combat and both are damn good fighters. IMO, they are the best deployed fighters of Russia and the USA.
September 26th, 2004  
Animal Mother
 
The "Super" Hornet is a POS. The F-14D is better in almost all categories, only field the "Super" Hornet is superior in is electronics, not suprising being over a decade younger than the D model Tomcat.

Fact is that the USN would have been far better off with an all F-14D fleet, but politics and other things (Like Cheney who cancelled the Tomcat, had a large stock portfolio in McDonald-Douglas, then the company that made the Hornet. Fair and unbiased desicion my arse) got in the way.
September 26th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Did I mention that the F-14 (all designations) did not compete either?
September 27th, 2004  
c/Commander
 
 
Yes you just did. Anyway, the only advantages the Super Tomcat has over the Super Hornet are speed and the Phoenix missile. For sacrificing .2 Mach speed and a big-ass missile that will probably be fitted to a Hornet soon anyway, you get a smaller, stealthier, more maneuverable aircraft that's got better electronics and isn't as hard on the arresting wires. I'll take that trade.
September 27th, 2004  
Animal Mother
 
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Originally Posted by c/LtCdr
Yes you just did. Anyway, the only advantages the Super Tomcat has over the Super Hornet are speed and the Phoenix missile. For sacrificing .2 Mach speed and a big-ass missile that will probably be fitted to a Hornet soon anyway, you get a smaller, stealthier, more maneuverable aircraft that's got better electronics and isn't as hard on the arresting wires. I'll take that trade.
The Phoenix is being phased out with the Tomcat. The "Super" Bug will rely on the AIM-120 for now.

And for stealthier, it is when it is clean, but if you want anything that resemble payload you can kiss that stealthyness goodbye. It has also shorter range, accelerate slower and has a slower top speed than the Tomcat. Good luck responding to a popup threat with that...

One can just look at Afganistan or OIF for that matter, while the D model Tomcats required 1 refueling on a mission, the "Super" Bug often required 2-3. And with the reduced ammount of tanker assets it means more strain on USAF tanker assets, or using other F/A-18's for buddy-buddy refueling. Did i mention that the F-14's can provide their own targeting for LGB's, while the Hornets had to rely on, you guessed it, Tomcats, to provide target designation (This is being solved though, with new pods for the "Super" Hornet).

Lastly, if the "Super" Hornet is superior, why did not the USMC replace their older F/A-18C and D's with them?
September 27th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
F-18s provide much better air strike capability than the F-14.