Marine'Anthem




 
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August 16th, 2004  
Eric
 

Topic: Marine'Anthem


"From the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli, we fight our country's battles in the air, on land and sea,”

I have a question for you: where does the Tripoli reference comes from in the Marine's Hymn?
August 16th, 2004  
GuyontheRight
 
In 1805 a small band of marines lead by Lieutenant Presely N. O'Bannon captured Tripoli from the Barbary Pirates.
August 16th, 2004  
Eric
 
Cool...I "GOOGLED" -Lieutenant Presely N. O'Bannon - and ended up with the following but it still doesn't say why the Marine were there, how many and what about a Mediterranean ally force ("The battle of 1805 between Tripoli and American Marines and their Mediterranean allies')

On April 27, 1805, Marine Corps forces lead by Marine Lieutenant Presely N. O’Bannon attacked and captured the fortress at Derna, Libya (then called Tripoli). The American flag was raised over the captured fortress. That was the first time ever the American flag had been flown over a territorial prize of war in the Eastern Hemisphere.

At the same time the United States of America treasury was paying as much as 1/5th of its total annual revenue to Tripoli and the Barbary Coast pirate states. This money was paid in part as ransom for captured American officials, and in part to allow the safe passage of American ships through the Mediterranean. The Basha (ruler) of Tripoli, unhappy about the amount of money Tripoli was receiving from the United States, declared war against the U.S. in May, 1801. A fleet of four ships was dispatched to patrol the waters around Tripoli and protect American shipping. However, their efforts were ineffectual. The battle of 1805 between Tripoli and American Marines and their Mediterranean allies, which almost ended in failure, resulted in replacing the Prince of Tripoli with his brother, who was more friendly to American interests.

The new Prince Karamali was so pleased with the American Marines; he awarded Lieutenant Presely O’Bannon a very special sword. This thin curved sword was the pattern for the current “Mameluke sword” carried by all Marine officers today as part of their dress uniform. As we all know our Marine Corp. March opening line “ From the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.

http://www.libyanet.com/n26jul99.htm
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August 16th, 2004  
GuyontheRight
 
The USMA was there because our shipping interests had come under attack by the Pirates, I have no idea who our "allies" were.
August 16th, 2004  
Eric
 
At this time Mediterranean piracy was ruled by Barbary pirates. Boats were attacked and looted, sailors kept as slaves for a ransom.Were the US so active there as to have military protection and Marine units?
August 16th, 2004  
GuyontheRight
 
They must have been now wouldn't they
August 16th, 2004  
Eric
 
Still, there is more about it:
"The battle of 1805 between Tripoli and American Marines and their Mediterranean allies"...

Interestingly enough, information on that specific and important battle should be easy to find but most of the USMC related sites just superficially talk about it.
Anybody with more details?
Was it a naval joint attack with a landing?
Who was helping?
Why going after the city?
Who were the American officials? ("This money was paid in part as ransom for captured American officials)
August 17th, 2004  
Mark Conley
 
 
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/stream/faq45-4.htm

this is the summary overview of the Barbary wars

http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/clas...arbarywar.html

heres the timeline


http://college.hmco.com/history/read...arbarywars.htm

and the condensed history

August 17th, 2004  
Eric
 
Thanks Mark....and here is my contribution to the Marine story:



http://www.network54.com/Forum/threa...&lp=1086188152

http://ragz-international.com/barbarystates.htm
August 17th, 2004  
Mark Conley
 
 
those two links are great! good job eric!