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According to: http://dniester.ru/content/belkovskii-nuzhen-li-nam-kadyrov-vseya-rusi
60% of Russian citizens want to cut off Chechnya and the rest of Northern Caucasus from the Federation. They support, in general, the nationalists' plan: create a high-security border on the Terek river, maybe build a wall, like Israel, heavily arm Cossack communities there, and have us fight any mountain people that try to cross, like in the old times
Oh, and almost all people of North Caucasian descent living in other areas of Russia, except those completely absorbed into local culture, are to be deported home. They (nationalists) say Russia has sacrificed already as amny as 30,000 men there, trying to keep order, since the early 90s, and there is no reason to continue this futile task.
Our Cossack leaders support this too. They, on our behalf, have demanded free access to weapons for ALL Cossacks (not just members of governemnt-sanctioned militias) for years. They say, give us free guns, and we are prepared to secure a border zone along Terek.
But, there are many problems I see with this. First, within Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, there are thousands of men who have fought, bravely, for Russia, for their Republics to remain a part of the Federation, risked their lives. Many more have given their lives for this goal. Policemen, troops, Specnaz fighters. And their families. Loyal Russian citizens. If those Republics are seceded from Russia, and, essentially, handed over to the Wakhabits, what will happen to those people? We, as a country, I believe, owe them better.
Than, there is the little matter of Ossetia. Ossetians are Orthodox Christian. Russia, to them, is home. And we, Cossacks, to them (and they to us) are brothers. Among my people, Terek Cossacks, 1 in 3 has Ossetian blood. My paternal grandmother was Ossetian. Ossetia forms a relatively narrow corridor between Muslim Dagestan, Chechnya and Ingushetia on one side and Muslim Kabardino-Balkaria and Karachaevo-Cherkesia on the other. In the 90s, Ossetians and Cossacks fought to the death against Chechens and Ingush over a tiny piece of land called Prigorodny District, today part of Ossetia (yes, we won, by the way). If we secede North Caucasus, and the Islamists take power on both sides of Ossetia, they (Islamists) will attack the Ossetians. The Cossacks will be drawn into it: Terek Army, us, will rise immedeately to the Ossetians aid, and Don and Kuban armies would be obliged to, then, fight alongside us as their fellow Cossacks. This would be a ethno-religious war involving several million people, one that will reduce most of that region to ruins. But, no need even for us or Ossetians. In Dagestan, which has both Sunni and Shiite Muslims, with the Sunnis in a narrow majority (around 60%), a Sunni-Shiite conflict is already in the works. Already Shiite leaders are complaining that the (mostly Sunni) spiritual leadership in the republic is preventing their people from entering mosques. There have already been violent clashes in rural areas. If Russian security presense went away, they'd start cutting each other in pieces, possibly with foreign players entering (perhaps Iran and Azerbaijan helping the Shiites, and the Arabs and, maybe, Turks, on the Sunni side).
Howerver it would turn out, without Russian military and security forces there, North Caucasus would quickly turn into another Waziristan, or Somalia, a lawless region, haven to terrorist organizations, criminal networks, etc.
But, what do you guys think? Is a peaceful separation of North Caucasus from Russia possible, desirable, and also, I would ask, how do you think it would affect the West?
60% of Russian citizens want to cut off Chechnya and the rest of Northern Caucasus from the Federation. They support, in general, the nationalists' plan: create a high-security border on the Terek river, maybe build a wall, like Israel, heavily arm Cossack communities there, and have us fight any mountain people that try to cross, like in the old times
Oh, and almost all people of North Caucasian descent living in other areas of Russia, except those completely absorbed into local culture, are to be deported home. They (nationalists) say Russia has sacrificed already as amny as 30,000 men there, trying to keep order, since the early 90s, and there is no reason to continue this futile task. Our Cossack leaders support this too. They, on our behalf, have demanded free access to weapons for ALL Cossacks (not just members of governemnt-sanctioned militias) for years. They say, give us free guns, and we are prepared to secure a border zone along Terek.
But, there are many problems I see with this. First, within Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, there are thousands of men who have fought, bravely, for Russia, for their Republics to remain a part of the Federation, risked their lives. Many more have given their lives for this goal. Policemen, troops, Specnaz fighters. And their families. Loyal Russian citizens. If those Republics are seceded from Russia, and, essentially, handed over to the Wakhabits, what will happen to those people? We, as a country, I believe, owe them better.
Than, there is the little matter of Ossetia. Ossetians are Orthodox Christian. Russia, to them, is home. And we, Cossacks, to them (and they to us) are brothers. Among my people, Terek Cossacks, 1 in 3 has Ossetian blood. My paternal grandmother was Ossetian. Ossetia forms a relatively narrow corridor between Muslim Dagestan, Chechnya and Ingushetia on one side and Muslim Kabardino-Balkaria and Karachaevo-Cherkesia on the other. In the 90s, Ossetians and Cossacks fought to the death against Chechens and Ingush over a tiny piece of land called Prigorodny District, today part of Ossetia (yes, we won, by the way
). If we secede North Caucasus, and the Islamists take power on both sides of Ossetia, they (Islamists) will attack the Ossetians. The Cossacks will be drawn into it: Terek Army, us, will rise immedeately to the Ossetians aid, and Don and Kuban armies would be obliged to, then, fight alongside us as their fellow Cossacks. This would be a ethno-religious war involving several million people, one that will reduce most of that region to ruins. But, no need even for us or Ossetians. In Dagestan, which has both Sunni and Shiite Muslims, with the Sunnis in a narrow majority (around 60%), a Sunni-Shiite conflict is already in the works. Already Shiite leaders are complaining that the (mostly Sunni) spiritual leadership in the republic is preventing their people from entering mosques. There have already been violent clashes in rural areas. If Russian security presense went away, they'd start cutting each other in pieces, possibly with foreign players entering (perhaps Iran and Azerbaijan helping the Shiites, and the Arabs and, maybe, Turks, on the Sunni side). Howerver it would turn out, without Russian military and security forces there, North Caucasus would quickly turn into another Waziristan, or Somalia, a lawless region, haven to terrorist organizations, criminal networks, etc.
But, what do you guys think? Is a peaceful separation of North Caucasus from Russia possible, desirable, and also, I would ask, how do you think it would affect the West?
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