Originally Posted by AlexKall

Isn't that a kind of bold statement?

"Excatly. One of the reasons why they chose to use the L55."

Well it does come at a cost.

No, not really. It is.

The silly part is that I don't even like the LeClerc to begin with. I think it would probably be a safe bet that its L44, but does anyone know? I suppose that the L55 would give would give the Leopard the ability to fire either munition (after mucking/tweaking a bit with the FCS and other stuff.) That would give the a6 another point up on the LeClerc. But unless I've missed something, we don't know for sure what the LeClerc actually has for a barrell.

Seriously though, we've run these polls far too many times, haven't we?? Why take the Leopard 2a6 (always ends up in top 3) against the LeClerc (doesn't usually ever make even the top 10)?? You'd get a lot better milage outa Merkava vs Leopard or M1-Abrams.

Originally Posted by godofthunder9010

The silly part is that I don't even like the LeClerc to begin with. I think it would probably be a safe bet that its L44, but does anyone know? I suppose that the L55 would give would give the Leopard the ability to fire either munition (after mucking/tweaking a bit with the FCS and other stuff.) That would give the a6 another point up on the LeClerc. But unless I've missed something, we don't know for sure what the LeClerc actually has for a barrell.

Seriously though, we've run these polls far too many times, haven't we?? Why take the Leopard 2a6 (always ends up in top 3) against the LeClerc (doesn't usually ever make even the top 10)?? You'd get a lot better milage outa Merkava vs Leopard or M1-Abrams.

The Leclerc uses a L52 barrell.http://www.army-technology.com/projects/leclerc/

Any idea which countries are using the tanks mentioned above besides Germany and France?

Originally Posted by zander_0633

Any idea which countries are using the tanks mentioned above besides Germany and France?

The Leo 2 is used by Sweden, the Netherlands and Greece (that I know of. Probably some other countries aswell)

The Leclerc is used by one other country afaik (some tiny Arab country like Qatar, Oman, the UAE or something. I'm really not sure).

Originally Posted by Mohmar Deathstrike

The Leo 2 is used by Sweden, the Netherlands and Greece (that I know of. Probably some other countries aswell)

The Leclerc is used by one other country afaik (some tiny Arab country like Qatar, Oman, the UAE or something. I'm really not sure).

The UAE uses them. Initially there were big problems with reliability but they seem to be fixed

Originally Posted by Mohmar Deathstrike

The Leo 2 is used by Sweden, the Netherlands and Greece (that I know of. Probably some other countries aswell)

The Leclerc is used by one other country afaik (some tiny Arab country like Qatar, Oman, the UAE or something. I'm really not sure).

The Leo 2 is operated by 12 other countries aside from Germany - it's almost a Euro-wide tank.

• Austria, 114 Leopard 2NL(A4)
• Denmark, 51 Leopard 2 A5+
• Germany, 852 Leopard 2 (502 Leopard 2A4, 125 Leopard 2A5, 225 Leopard 2A6)
• The Netherlands,180 Leopard 2A6NL
• Norway, 52 Leopard 2NL(A4)
• Switzerland, 380 Pz 87
• Sweden, 160 L2A4 as the Strv 121 and 120 L2A5+ as the Strv 122
• Spain, 108 L2A4 and 219 L2A6 as the Leopard 2E
• Finland, 124 Leopard 2A4
• Poland, 128 Leopard 2A4
• Greece, 183 Leopard 2A4 and 170 Leopard 2GR(HEL)
• Turkey, 298 Leopard 2A4
• Chile, 100 Leopard 2A4 (They'll arrive at 2006)

Source - Wikipedia

WEll so much info about the Leo 2! wad about the French made tank? Any info? btw, wad is the min and max operating temp for the tanks?

Originally Posted by zander_0633

WEll so much info about the Leo 2! wad about the French made tank? Any info? btw, wad is the min and max operating temp for the tanks?

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/leclerc/

type in "Leclerc MBT" on google.

Thanks! great info about the French tank!