Leclerc




 
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August 18th, 2004  
Shadowalker
 
 

Topic: Leclerc


I was wondering what you think of this tank, it has come up some other posts but i thought it could have its own. From what ive read about it its a very good tank up with the M1A2, Leopard 2, challenger 2. what do you think.
How does its armour compare?
How goes its arnament compare?
Reliability?

Thanks
August 18th, 2004  
Eric
 
That would be a good start, especially the virtual tour!
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/terre/equip/index.html
August 18th, 2004  
Uncle_Sam
 
 
In my opinion, the only tank that can engage Abrams on equal terms.
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August 18th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 
I dont like the Autoloader.
August 18th, 2004  
Kozzy Mozzy
 
The Leclerc is a good tank, it's two strengths are it's mobility and electronics. The fire control, optics, and communications (FINDERS) are all on par or better then other western tanks. I don't know much about the armor, but I would assume wouldn't be anymore then other tanks, probably less because of the lighter weight. It's gun and ammo are good too.

It wouldn't have any problem against a fight with any other modern tank. Except the auto-loader, a 3 man crew fatigues much faster then a 4 man one.
August 19th, 2004  
Shadowalker
 
 
I read somewhere (Eric you might know) that the gun can be manually loaded as well if the autoloader does break!
Is there any recorded instances of the autolader breaking?
August 19th, 2004  
silent driller
 
 
Being a complete and utter moron, Ich weiss nicht Franzosich.
August 19th, 2004  
J.Hawk
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle_Sam
In my opinion, the only tank that can engage Abrams on equal terms.
I would argue the Leopard 2A6 can do that too. Possibly the Challenger II as well, although it's probably not as maneuverable. It may have better armor, however.
August 19th, 2004  
Shadowalker
 
 
Thats the problem that you cant pick a winner out of the leclerc, M1A2, Leopard 2A6, challenger 2. And its not very likely that we will ever see them against each other.

I know i like the leclerc more than the others due to the profile and with its advanced FINDERS systems its an awesome tank.
August 19th, 2004  
Eric
 
I served the good old AMX 30 B and B2 and followed the developpment and fielding of the Leclerc.
The Leclerc has been designed as a weapon system, that is to say as a piece integrated in a bigger picture included but not limited to multiple crews for one tank (for rotation to keep tank's availibility to the max), battlefield management (one can see where other tanks are), remote maintenance and status monitoring (technical, ammos, crews...)...It comes/will come with a whole range of support systems/vehicles adapted to the weapon system.
The engine is small and powerful, using latest ceramic technology for bearings and all...if you floor it on dirt, the tracks just spin like a muscle car...on hard surface, it beats at start any regular compact car. Mobility is impressive and so is stabilization. Actually field testing showed it more accurate on the move than static, killing target at 4000 meters while moving on dirt tracks at 30 km/h and faster...
Armor is like any modern composite armor but also modular...the "panels" can be changed to adapt the threats.
Autoloader is awesome: it is electric and barcode driven...Gunner or commander select the ammo and rotations and scan occur quickly too present the right ammo, open a little armored door and load it....Firing speed is up to 6 rounds per minute and autoloader reliability comes from our 20 years successful experiece with the SP AMX 155 AUF1 that can fires 6 rounds of 155mm from a static position and switches positions while the rounds are still in the air (it was fine tuned with Iraqi forces during the Iran-Iraq conflict...).
A crew of 3 does not really get tired faster than a crew of 4...Tasks are automated...
I'd say without chauvinism that it is one of the top tanks and only the skills of the crews would make the difference between the M1, the Leo, the Challenger, the T90 or the Leclerc...