Last Best Hope - Page 2




 
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Boots
 
November 10th, 2014  
tetvet
 
Clueless on that reply did I knock on that generation or the present generation and why did you reply at all ???? ,
November 11th, 2014  
crazytanker
 
 
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Originally Posted by tetvet
Clueless on that reply did I knock on that generation or the present generation and why did you reply at all ???? ,
Both, actually. Well I'm just curious as to how a generation can be the last hope, when you knock that same generation?
November 11th, 2014  
tetvet
 
The greatest generation gave us 40 years of bad road in the cold war that's a given the present generation has given us the democrats , Obama , ACA , illegal immigration , gay rights , political correctness , Ferguson NJ and Lindsey Lohan , its time I suppose to get real .
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Boots
November 11th, 2014  
crazytanker
 
 
Gay rights? Illegal immigration? You're kidding, right? I know realize how truly ignorant you are. Good day sir, I will not continue this conversation.
November 11th, 2014  
tetvet
 
I didn't know we were having a conversation though I knew you would hit on gay rights that's why I threw it in , gays are Americans and what rights should they have that they don't already have , marriage is a privilege just like a drivers license you need to qualified for and pay for , there is nothing in the constitution that mention marriage and what's not covered in the constitution is up to the individual states , everybody knows that .
November 11th, 2014  
dadsgirl
 
 
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Originally Posted by tetvet
The greatest generation gave us 40 years of bad road in the cold war that's a given the present generation has given us the democrats , Obama , ACA , illegal immigration , gay rights , political correctness , Ferguson NJ and Lindsey Lohan , its time I suppose to get real .
p.s. Ferguson is in Missouri

p.p.s. what were they, fake times? All times are just that. Times. Let us see what your marvelous politicians are not going to do for the greater good.
November 11th, 2014  
tetvet
 
You're right on all points .
November 13th, 2014  
Kesse81
 
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Originally Posted by Remington 1858
In response to Kesse81, I Don't think it is fair to describe Americans as self - centered given the sacrifices of Americans both in war and peace to assist many nations of the world, especially European nations, starting with the Marshall Plan,
I appreciate the sacrifices these soldiers have given.
But I'm tired of hearing the same song old from Americans
"If it was not for us, Europe would be speaking German today"

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contributions to NATO, staring down the Soviets for fifty years
What you probably do not know is that Denmark has played a major role in the electronic war during the Cold War. The Warsaw Pact was right on our doorstep. East Germany was only half an hour away by boat.

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not to mention America's contribution in two world wars.
We are grateful. But you did not do it of your own free will. You were drawn into it.

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Most European nations have abolished conscription in favor of an all- volunteer force, except they are having a hard time getting any volunteers.
Many have transformed their armed forces, yes!
But it is not true that there is a shortage of applicants. In Denmark you have to wait about 1.5 years to get into the Army.

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So, you can get rid of the overbearing Americans quite easily. All you have to do is to be willing to pay more taxes, provide manpower for meaningful military forces, and step up when there is a threat to security.
These are some of the missions Denmark has been and is currently involved in.

Active Endavour (Mediterranean) AFOR (Albania) ALBA (Albania) Desert Storm (Iraq) Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan) Herrick (Afghanistan) IFOR and SFOR (Bosnia) Iraqi Freedom (Iraq) ISAF (Afghanistan) KFOR (Kosovo)
MINURCAT (Chad) MINURSO (Western Sahara) MONUC (Congo) Ocean Shield (Indian Ocean) Odyssey (Dawn Libya) ONUC (Congo) Serval (Mali)Sharp Guard (Adriatic) Task Force 150 and 151 (Horn of Africa)Task Force Harvest (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) UNAMI (Iraq ) UNAMIS (Sudan) UNAMSIL (Sierra Leone) UNCRO (Croatia) UNEF I (Sinai and Gaza)UNFICYP (Cyprus) UNGCI (Northern Iraq) UNGOMAP (Afghanistan) UNIFIL (Lebanon) UNIIMOG (Iraq and Iran) UNIKOM (Iraq and Kuwait) UNIPOM (Pakistan and India) UNMAET, UNTAET and UNMISET (Timor Leste) UNMEE (Ethiopia and Eritrea) UNMIK (Kosovo) UNMIN (Nepal) UNMOGIP (Kashmir)UNMOT (Tajikistan) UNOGIL (Lebanon) UNOMIG (Georgia) UNPREDEP (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) UNPROFOR (Croatia, Bosnia and the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) UNSMIS (Syria) UNTAG(Namibia) UNYOM (Yemen)

Is that stepping up enough for you?

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Originally Posted by Remington 1858
Until then, while Americans are picking up the check, we will remain "self-centered".
Europe has paid its share, at least with blood the last few years. Including many of my mates.
November 13th, 2014  
tetvet
 
Germany maintains a viable military force and their economic stability is the best in Euro zone , watch out for a 4th Reich .
November 13th, 2014  
JOC
 
 
Remington makes some good points In his 1st sentence. I agree with this comment. We are in a position to do more because we have the worlds most powerful military and economy. It seems politics and economics play a role. Example humanitarian disasters have continued for decades in the Sudan and the Congo and the US and others have done little to abate these modern day genocides. Yet we are assisting the fight against ISIS "barely" who is most defiantly in need of being wiped out. But lets face it is this solely due to the fact that it's an humanitarian crisis "which it most defiantly is" or is that they are an instability in the oil rich middle east make a bit of a difference.
 


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