Korea - Communist China's Biggest Blunder




 
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March 10th, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 

Topic: Korea - Communist China's Biggest Blunder


I believe that support for North Korea was the biggest strategic blunder for Communist China. North Korea came to China and asked them for arms and equipment for reunification. China thought the U.S. would not fight in Korea and gave N.Korea lots and lots of weapons. The war ended in what basically was a stalemate with a bunch of Chinese men and equipment destroyed on the pennensula.

Now here's the twist, before the Korean war the U.S. had written off Taiwan as indefencible and that the United States should just let China take it over. However, with the onset of the Korean war, Truman pulled a 180 on the Taiwan issue and declared that Taiwan must be defended or else America would look impotent in the region.

So let's recap. Because of their decision to begin the Korean war China was devestated militarily and lost what they really wanted, a re-unification with Taiwan. Fifty years later the U.S. has put over 1/5th of its entire lifespan into defending Taiwan and will now not lightly give up that herritige.
March 10th, 2005  
ironface
 
what do u mean?u mean,the US guys will protect taiwan ?I believe
that will be a nightmare for US.
As a chinese,I can say,no matter how many people we die,we will
get it back.
March 10th, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
same here brother, we wont care how much as long as our terrotory is ours

look, you americans take the korean war as something chinese did stupidly.

well, it was really a feeling of hatred towards u guys cuz it seems ur about to release imperalism again on asia, thereby we had to protect our homeland form foreign invasion
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March 10th, 2005  
SwordFish_13
 
 
Hi,

Look Mommy He Said the T *#$ Word


Peace
-=SF_13=-
March 10th, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 
First off, let's be warry of getting too emotional here, this is an OBJECTIVE discussion about the historical facts surrounding the relationship between Taiwan and the Korean War. If you have a problem seperating your personal feelings from an objective discussion then I suggest you find another thread to voice your opinion in.

I will not allow my thread to devolve into "I'm right about Taiwan" "NO I'M RIGHT ABOUT TAIWAN."

So let's stay on topic here guys, what are your intellectual reactions to my theory?

Now let me respond to the parts of these posts that are pertainate.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ironface
what do u mean?u mean,the US guys will protect taiwan ?
Now this can easily draw us off topic so let's not discuss this any further in this thread, but addressing this mindset is pertinate because this viewpoint is exactly what Mao thought when he greenlighted the invasion of N.Korea.

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Originally Posted by Mech
look, you americans take the korean war as something chinese did stupidly.
I don't think that the Chinese took it stupidly, I do, however, believe it is a matter of imperical fact that Mao miscalculated that the Americans would not interfere in Korea. It has been said that the Communist nations where played chess and the Americans where playing Poker so the Chinese had a hard time discerning where the U.S. was bluffing and where they would call.
March 10th, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
mao had his lil red book

hujintao has his red power tie

no matter how or what you want to believe, our new laws has obligated the government to attack taiwan if it rebels.
March 10th, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 
THIS IS NOT ABOUT PRESENT DAY

It is completely irrelevent what China will do about Taiwan now, you're about 50 years off from the time period this thread concerns.

I am kindly pleading with you not to drag my thread off topic again.
March 10th, 2005  
MadeInChina
 
lol sry, but the topic has turned into a heated taiwan discussion again

well moving on


blunder you say eh??? i have already told u my points, it is about protecting ones country from another possible foreign attack
March 10th, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 
You understand my point do you not? According the the Truman Doctorine and coorborated by declassified corespondence, President Truman had absolutely no interest in interfearing in the Taiwan issue prior to the Korean war. Due to that war America felt like it was losing geo-politically and Truman decided that if he lost Taiwan too, America would look imponent in the asian region.

So therefore, it is my conclusion that the Korean war was a blunder because had Mao not supported the unification policy of Korea it is a foreseable consequence that the U.S. would have no intrest in interfearing in the Taiwan issue.

If it is any consolation to you Chinese, I think it is more noble for the Chinese to want unification than the American ambitions of securing their foothold in the region. I include this opinion not to spark an ethical debate about Taiwan, but rather to help you Chinese understand that the motive for this thread is an objective one.
March 10th, 2005  
lemontree
 
China's decision about N.Korea was not a blunder. The Chinese had reasons for moving into N. Korea after the US/UN forces crosses the 38th parallel.
Most of the hydro-electric power that China recieved in the north-east was from N.Korea. It was essential for China to keep N. Korea or unified Korea in communits hands, but once it felt that the UN forces would capture the north, they decided to move in to safe guard their intrests. In that sense China achieved their aim in keeping the buffer of N. Korea intact. The blunder was committed by the US/UN forces when they crossed the 38th parallel. This got the chinese involved directly.