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December 23rd, 2004  
USAFAUX2004
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chewie_nz
but by the same token there are many war sim games out there. i had relatives that fought in the pacific theatre but i don't get bent out of shape with the latest medal of honour game.

JFK reloaded was made to stimulate debate on the aniversary of the assasination, and what do you know? here we are debating it!
Does medal of honor fire at Ike? no it fires at Germans and no specific ones.



Here's a thought for you regarding JFK Reloaded.

The man still has family alive including a daughter and a brother and sisters. How would you feel if there was a game out that showed your dad or brother getting his brains blown out? Probably not too thrilled I should imagine. People need to think about that before they go making dumbass games that serve no purpose.


I totaly agree
December 23rd, 2004  
chewie_nz
 
i had relatives that fought in the pacific theatre but i don't get bent out of shape with the latest medal of honour game.


JFK was a public figure. i'm sure his family aren't too thirlled over the constant replays of his moment of death either. or the constant bickering over who actually killed him.

the "game" is just another form of discussion. they won't give away the prize money for this game because it is just so had to recreate those shots. play the game for your self and see.
therefore the makers of the games are saying that it wasn't a lone shooter situation.

i found it disturbing but educational
December 23rd, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
Oswald was a great shot, I have seen copies of his shooting marks, hitting 49 out of 50 shots from 200 yards many times, and he was only 88 yards away in the book depository building and the angle was from above so it wasn't really all that bad, plus we have evidence to support the lone shooter theory but only speculation to support a conspiracy. I used to believe the Oliver Stone version of history, but then I looked at the facts and realised how stupid it was, and I also saw Alexander and realised that Oliver Stone has no respect for history.
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December 23rd, 2004  
Darcia
 
I go with the theory the FBI knows more than it says and all of the files have been destroyed.
December 23rd, 2004  
chewie_nz
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien435
Oswald was a great shot, I have seen copies of his shooting marks, hitting 49 out of 50 shots from 200 yards many times, and he was only 88 yards away in the book depository building and the angle was from above so it wasn't really all that bad, plus we have evidence to support the lone shooter theory but only speculation to support a conspiracy. I used to believe the Oliver Stone version of history, but then I looked at the facts and realised how stupid it was, and I also saw Alexander and realised that Oliver Stone has no respect for history.
oh dude, don't tell me that alexander sucks?! damn. i always loved classics and had high hopes for that movie.
December 26th, 2004  
USAFAUX2004
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chewie_nz
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien435
Oswald was a great shot, I have seen copies of his shooting marks, hitting 49 out of 50 shots from 200 yards many times, and he was only 88 yards away in the book depository building and the angle was from above so it wasn't really all that bad, plus we have evidence to support the lone shooter theory but only speculation to support a conspiracy. I used to believe the Oliver Stone version of history, but then I looked at the facts and realised how stupid it was, and I also saw Alexander and realised that Oliver Stone has no respect for history.
oh dude, don't tell me that alexander sucks?! damn. i always loved classics and had high hopes for that movie.
Its an action movie creating myth not history
December 28th, 2004  
Missileer
 
 
I was in the service when the President was killed and all of the missile sites were locked down and we couldn't leave. We were told only that JFK had been killed in Dallas but nothing more. When I was discharged, one of the first places I went was to the book depository. By that time, a lot of the area was being turned into a tourist attraction. I have gone back a few times when I had to go to Dallas for Jury duty or some such. Could a man with rifle skills have made those three shots? I could have and I think most people who have been shooting for a while could. The limo was a huge target, open, had a lot of people in it, and was driving at a slow speed. Oswald only had to put the crosshairs on the dark target against a bright, sunlit street. I fired expert with an M1 Garand at 500 yards. I think Oswald fired almost the same score when he was in the service.
December 28th, 2004  
Charge 7
 
 
Good to hear that from you Missileer. It certainly answers that question. I've been thinking for a very long time about my only other real question about Oswald that being why did he not fire when Kennedy was coming closer and closer to him from straight up the street but waited until he was passing by to the right and going away. I think I have three answers. The first and most likely to me is that he suspected Federal agent sniper teams would see his rifle if he used it head on. Waiting until he was further down the road gave him more time to fire before his rifle might have been seen. The second possibility is that Oswald was delayed in taking the shots. He might have met someone in the hall as he came in the building or it took time to get access to his rifle - something like that. The third and probably least likely possibility is that Oswald was contemplating his act. His conscience might have delayed his hand.
December 29th, 2004  
Missileer
 
 
Charge 7, I think that a straight on shot was not possible because Governor Connally was sitting directly in front of the President. Also, the best shot in that area would be going away from the shooter because the limo was traveling in a straight line and there is not a clear shot until the car is either directly in front of the window or moving away. There are some cedar trees blocking most angles, at least there were back then.
Oswald was not the sharpest knife in the drawer and struck me as a person who acted on impulse rather than plan something as elaborate as the assassination seemed to be. He did miss the first shot and hit the overpass, I think he was nervous as an amateur would be. Also shooting a policeman in cold blood instead of planning a safe place to hole up nearby was not very smart. By the way, his Wife, Marina remarried and lives in Rockwall across Lake Ray Hubbard from my home.

P.S.- I don't think the guy was smart enough to have a conscience.
December 29th, 2004  
USAFAUX2004
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Missileer
Charge 7, I think that a straight on shot was not possible because Governor Connally was sitting directly in front of the President. Also, the best shot in that area would be going away from the shooter because the limo was traveling in a straight line and there is not a clear shot until the car is either directly in front of the window or moving away. There are some cedar trees blocking most angles, at least there were back then.
Oswald was not the sharpest knife in the drawer and struck me as a person who acted on impulse rather than plan something as elaborate as the assassination seemed to be. He did miss the first shot and hit the overpass, I think he was nervous as an amateur would be. Also shooting a policeman in cold blood instead of planning a safe place to hole up nearby was not very smart. By the way, his Wife, Marina remarried and lives in Rockwall across Lake Ray Hubbard from my home.

P.S.- I don't think the guy was smart enough to have a conscience.
The governor was actually shifted to the inside by 6 inches