JAS 39 GRIPEN




 
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January 6th, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 

Topic: JAS 39 GRIPEN


As a Swede, it would be interesting to hear what you think about the JAS 39 GRIPEN.
January 7th, 2012  
HindStrike
 
 
Its a great fighter for smaller nations because of its low cost, wide range of usable ordanance, reliability, and overall value.It is very advanced for the price but its single engine and small range limits interest from larger countries. I prefer larger fighters myself but its a good plane.
January 7th, 2012  
BritinAfrica
 
 
The South African Air Force have bought them, only problem is, only a few people can fly them. A cadre of would be pilots were sent to UK for training, every single one failed.
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January 7th, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
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Originally Posted by BritinAfrica
The South African Air Force have bought them, only problem is, only a few people can fly them. A cadre of would be pilots were sent to UK for training, every single one failed.
Is the JAS more complicated to fly than similar fighters? They (SAAB, the Gov of S) were quite upset when Norway decided to purchase the F-35 instead
January 7th, 2012  
VDKMS
 
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider
Is the JAS more complicated to fly than similar fighters? They (SAAB, the Gov of S) were quite upset when Norway decided to purchase the F-35 instead
I don't think the problem was the plane ....

SAAF boasts 23 fighter aircrew

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To solo on the Gripen should typically take new pilots five years, 2 Squadron's operations officer, Lt Col Musa “Midnite” Mbhokota told journalists in October. This includes basic military training (three months), officers forming course (a further three months), the Military Academy (one year) and basic pilot training (one year). The latter includes 180 hours on the Pilatus PC7 MkII. Next follows some 390 hours on the Hawk at 85 CFS before posting to 2 Squadron where conversion to the Gripen takes place, starting with six weeks in the classroom followed by 70 hours on the Squadron Level Mission Trainer (a flight simulator) and a further 70 hours on the aircraft. Both periods include 30 hours of conversion training, 20 hours of air warfare training and 20 hours of surface warfare training. It then takes a further six sorties to solo.
SA proves girls can fly fighter jets
January 8th, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
I don't think the problem was the plane ....

SAAF boasts 23 fighter aircrew



SA proves girls can fly fighter jets

Ohh crap! The flight manual was in Swedish, right?
January 8th, 2012  
BritinAfrica
 
 
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Originally Posted by VDKMS
I don't think the problem was the plane ....
The problem wasn't the aeroplane, it was the quality of trainee pilots.
January 8th, 2012  
George
 
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider
Ohh crap! The flight manual was in Swedish, right?
Witch brings up the question....Why send them to the U.K. instead of Sweden for training?
January 8th, 2012  
I3BrigPvSk
 
 
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Originally Posted by George
Witch brings up the question....Why send them to the U.K. instead of Sweden for training?

I should guess the reason for sending them to the UK is the collaboration between SAAB and the British Aerospace. I am a bit confused, the JAS is not their first fighter, even if the Cheetah (looks a bit as a Mirage, Kfir) is perhaps quite old now, but why did they fail? They must have experienced pilots

http://www.af.mil.za/equip/aircraft.html
January 9th, 2012  
BritinAfrica
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by George
Witch brings up the question....Why send them to the U.K. instead of Sweden for training?
The SADF send all their trainee pilots to the UK, a chopper pilot I know was sent to the RN Air Station at Yeovilton training on the Lynx.

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Originally Posted by Ghostrider
I should guess the reason for sending them to the UK is the collaboration between SAAB and the British Aerospace. I am a bit confused, the JAS is not their first fighter, even if the Cheetah (looks a bit as a Mirage, Kfir) is perhaps quite old now, but why did they fail? They must have experienced pilots

http://www.af.mil.za/equip/aircraft.html
The people they sent were not qualified pilots, they were of the Affirmative Action trainee variety.

The vast majority of the older/experienced pilots took their early retirement because of the unfairness of promotion prospects. To be blunt, if you are white, you wont get anywhere, while unqualified people are promoted above you. That's not being racists, that's fact.
 


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