Lovely comparison,US export junk against one of the best tanks in the world, as for the level of training of Israeli CONSCRIPT army i'd be carefull, personally i think that against most European armies Israel would be hard pressed, against Western armies downright doomed.

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All wars, have proved the war not only with weapons.!
Do not hide from you the most difficult thing in Egypt is the army also do not hide from you soldiers possible eat snakes, Slaughtered chickens and birds to eat him with his hand, Are trained to withstand adversity.
Today to prepare for war, Prevents them tomorrow. (Egyptian policy)
Sorry I'm not good in English I use Google Translation.

Mod edit: qouting country bashing is the same as doing it.

I think the more here no know this information.!

Originally Posted by The Small Pharaoh

I think the more here no know this information.!

There no more is english i speaking am not understand you say what?

Ps. a whole lot of bad things can be said about Jews but they're very rarely cowards and i'd never call IDF cowardly.

sherman in the event of an all out war what other tanks would Israel use?

Merkava mk3?
Magach 6/7?

if s, how effective wold those be against the egyptian abrams?

Not needed.

Not needed.

i don't think you should get excited over some guy who uses Google Translation.

While the patriotisem of our Egyptian friends is understandable, they are a bit over zealous. IDF soldiers have fought Egyptians at odds of 10-1. The stories about Egyptian infantry destroying tanks with hand grenades are rubibsh from Egyptian propoganda. Israeli tanks were hit mostly by RPG-7 and Sagger missiles. Attacking tanks with hand grenades isent brave as much as it is stupid, and no one dose it unless its a last result.

As far as Israeli "conscripts", I would put them against any European army, as long as it is where they were trained to fight, as n the Golan or Sinai. An Israeli tank crew gets more training before operational status than an American one, and that is a fact. Not saying we are better or worse, we just train more before operational status. Of the 2 years I spent in armor, I spent 50% in training and most of the rest in operations on tanks. Not many armies can do that. I dont know the level of training in Egypt, but assuming its lower than USA and higher the lets say Syria(which I know), I would say they are very far from being a match to Israeli tank crews.

If our Egyptian friends want to give me a list of training weeks an Egyptian crew gets before getting to operational status, we can discuss this much more seriously.

sherman in the event of an all out war what other tanks would Israel use?

Merkava mk3?
Magach 6/7?

if s, how effective wold those be against the egyptian abrams?

Merkava Mk 1, 2, 3, 4. Macgach 6 and 7. The ones armed with 105mm will have a harder time, the ones with the 120mm should be OK. Egyptian Abrams do not have the DU plate in their frontal armor. They also dont have DU-APFSDS.