How much advantage will the US military tech still have? - Page 3




 
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October 3rd, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
The US has done a lot of research into lasers, but apparently it just never to Americans to use them to blind military opponents. Honestly, the idea of it is pretty "un-American". It could have been developed a long time ago otherwise, I'm sure.
October 3rd, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
The US has done a lot of research into lasers, but apparently it just never to Americans to use them to blind military opponents. Honestly, the idea of it is pretty "un-American". It could have been developed a long time ago otherwise, I'm sure.
I am not laser-expert, but one thing I am sure is: if I can make laser to make you blind, once I increase the power, I can just kill you, making a hole through your head. So, your argument is too......


I will basically argue about China cause Russia is too weak now, even Chinese become so picky to buy their stuff recently cause Russia seems dont have enough new stuff recently, while Chinese are catching up quickly by absorbing Russia's stuff.

Okay, regarding the command-control, if you noticed I mention super computing---that basically means large data processing, or possible AIs. As I just researched, Chinese has become the second country in the world making their own CPUs (NOT JUST re-PRODUCING FOR INTEL), at this moment, they can only develope similar CPU like PIII, but think about last year, they had none!!! so, imaging the speed.... And in fact, F117,JSF such advanced machines has to have hundreds of military CPUs--I think this is one of the reasons no other country can make them at all. Regarding materials or others, here is the following:

You know, things regarding navy or aricraft stuff, all related to manufacturing (not all, but mostly). If you go to walmart, you might still argue that Chinese can only produce shoes, but actually, Chinese is the biggest electronic exporter to USA? if you check CNN recently, SONY (usa) tried so hard to stop China exporting plasma TV (their own stuff) to USA, otherwise, they will be off business in USA in one month. little off topic, but what I am saying here is the manufacturing power is potentially such huge, which indicate finally the manufacturing for battleship and aircraft can be huge too. By the way, Chinese have become the second largest ship manufactuer in the world already last year (size and numbers).

Last thing, is the so called strategic weapons--nukes, missles, especially the new kind such as: laser/nukes based on or from satellite. I dont have too much materials with me now, anybody want to open to discuss about ?

by the way: do you guys really think there are big difference between the military electronic equipments and the daily electronics we are using? I really dont see big difference most of time.
October 3rd, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
There is a world of a difference, including stuff we're not supposed to know about.
Military level of electronics is ... well first of all, how many of us have any use for an ECM system??
Dude, the computers the military use for command and control isn't just about the hardware, it's also the software. Plus don't compare it with the stuff we have. The stuff that runs the huge command centers... or the mobile command centers at that, our stuff is nothing.
I think your talk about the TVs and stuff is a good reflection of how little you know. That stuff is so basic compared to the level of sophistication you need to have a top of the line command and control system. You're talking quantity, which the Chinese can do plenty. Not quality.
Everyone knows that if you want a good TV from Asia, the best ones are from Japan, then Korea, then Taiwan and then China.
I don't think there's really a need to talk about Strategic weapons. No one's going to use them and if they do, that's pretty much it anyway.

But yes, China's main weapon is their massive manufacturing capacity. They got a huge pool of workers who work for next to nothing so there's no surprise on why they can churn out so much for so little.
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October 3rd, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Dude, the computers the military use for command and control isn't just about the hardware, it's also the software. .
who is writing the code in Silcon Valley: No1. Indian No.2 Chinese
October 3rd, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Okay, the Chinese own the world. Happy?
October 3rd, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Okay, the Chinese own the world. Happy?
what the hell is this
October 3rd, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
lol
October 3rd, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
I think your talk about the TVs and stuff is a good reflection of how little you know.
Unfortunally, I can make a very quick link:
I don remember which aircraft, but I do remember my prof mentioned to me about one thing: pilot used to have problem to view the flat screen cause you will have view-angle problem: which means if you eye line has big angle with the flat screen, you will see nothing, the screen is just like a mirror. Now, the problem is resolved--because our flat screen TV is getting better and better. Just the same technology.

Now. you tell me whether there is link or not.

There are plenty of examples that stuff we are using are very similar to what Military is using. maybe just add little more something, but there is absolutely NO fundermental difference.
October 3rd, 2004  
whosewar2000
 
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Not quality.
Everyone knows that if you want a good TV from Asia, the best ones are from Japan, then Korea, then Taiwan and then China.
I suggest you do some research before you post your arguments:

Japan just shut down their last manufacture line in China cause they just cannot compete with Chinese made TV at all--both price and quality. You donot know anything about Chinese made TV is because IT IS BANNED IN US MARKET AT THIS MOMENT ---too cheap, same quality. And walmart and bestbuy is sueing American government right now trying to get license to sell those stuff.

Japan will give up industry about TV in 2 years. you watch CNN news, or, Fox news at least, do you?

besides, do you know G3 technology in cell phone is from Asia? in fact it is from China mostly? USA is behind about that already in 2 years.

p.s. China is going to export USA $6000 SUV in 5 years. Think about that.
October 3rd, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Great, then why do you ask us? You tell us then.

Chinese with better quality than Japan? You are joking.